DIET, VITAMINS & SUPPLEMENTS

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Thursday, March 13th 2008, 6:10pm

Thanks for the research Michelle, Will change over I think once this box finished

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Saturday, March 15th 2008, 7:05pm

Just a note on Iron - if you take iron in tablet form the body only actually absorbs around 3% of the actual content so I wouldn't worry about taking too much as you will not be getting what it states.

I believe everyone should be taking a good multivitamin all the time, especially prior to TTC, its the three months prior that are the most important.

I Have taken supplements for nearly 10 years, I do vary suppliers as contents and quality vary.

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Saturday, March 15th 2008, 7:46pm

I was also advised by my consultant not to take pregnacare. I am now taking a supplement prescribed by my nutrionist called Biocare Antenatal Forte (which also contains the folic acid). If anyone wants the details of where you can buy it, feel free to PM me

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Saturday, March 15th 2008, 8:44pm

Hi Bubble,

Do you know why your consultant advised against pregnacare? i have looked on the net and found yours for around £8.45 does that seem reasonable??

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Saturday, March 15th 2008, 8:49pm

Hi Alie, no I don't I'm afraid. She just said that she had been campaigning for a long time for them to be taken off the shelves but as the appointment was to talk about my m/c and what tx next I just took her word for it and didn't ask why - other things on my mind!

Her advice was just to take straight folic acid. I was told I had PCOS at that appointment which is why I saw a nutrionist and she was the one who suggested the Biocare ones. I think I paid just over £20 (with a 10% discount) for 60 tablets so if that is £8.45 for 30, then yes, sounds good to me.

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Saturday, March 15th 2008, 9:16pm

Bubble I'm sorry to have asked when your consult was for more important things.
They were £8.44 for 60

Anybody got any good ideas for mens vitamins re fertility??

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Saturday, March 15th 2008, 9:23pm

No problem at all Alie, I wish I had asked actually because I hate being told things like that but not knowing the reasons behind it!

Another thing she told me was to give them to DH! I think there is a wellman supplement as well which he could try?

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Sunday, March 16th 2008, 4:14pm

Alie - Zinc is vital for mens sperm so taking this on its own is good as well as a good mulitvitamin.

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Sunday, March 16th 2008, 4:23pm

Hello

Susie,
Sorry hun i dont know the answer to your question but i dint just want to read then run maybe some of the other ladies will be along real soon that can give you some advice.
I am thinking of you and my fingers are crossed xfingers

for you too.
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Sunday, March 16th 2008, 4:38pm

Acupuncture -v- Nutritionist?

I am considering going to see an acupuncturist as I have heard some good things about them but obviously I know it's important to have a healthy diet and I see some of you ladies are going to see a nutrtionist. I couldn't afford to pay to see both so what would you recommend? Can I have your stories please.

My diet isn't bad, I drink loads of water, have cut out caffiene and sweetners, don't have a lot of bread, have my portions of fruit and veg......

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Sunday, March 16th 2008, 8:12pm

RE: Acupuncture -v- Nutritionist?

Hi Picklesmum

I saw a nutritionist last year and whilst it was useful to keep a food diary for 3 days and find out what food types I needed to eat more/less of, I'm not sure I would pay to see one regularly. It sounds like your diet is good already. If you like reading I can suggest a great book by Patrick Holford (I think it's called 'Optimum Health' or something like that) about nutrition that has a very useful section on nutrition whilst ttc and when pregnant.

As for acupuncture, I have it regularly and whilst it's impossible to say if it's doing any good because I haven't had a BFP yet, my periods have become more regular and I always feel relaxed after my treatment. It's important that you find a reputable therapist and someone you like - if it's someone that specialises in fertility acupuncture then even better.

Good luck!

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Sunday, March 16th 2008, 8:24pm

HI

I have to say I saw a nutritionalist as a one off, who for me basically said the most important thing is not letting your blood sugar rise and fall dramatically, to eat regularly 3-4 hrly and obviously healthly which you said you already do.

I really enjoy my acu sessions, I have someone who is very friendly its like having a friendly counselling session each time - allows me to gets lots off chest. Must agree though you need someone trained in fertility, its important needles put in correct place at correct time in treatment.

Wishing you lots of luck with your treatment

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Sunday, March 16th 2008, 8:29pm

Hi Alie, good luck with the 2WW. Hope it flies by and your snow babies give you a BFP! X

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Clomid 50mg Nov 07 - BFN
Clomid 50mg Dec 07 - BFN
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Monday, March 17th 2008, 12:26pm

Guys,

I have seen a nutritionist but have a big trouble eating veg, it makes me want to be sick, but know I have to eat it. Have you got any advice how I can get myself to eat more. I eat fruit but only grapes, melon and cherries, is this enough?

I do take vitamins etc just to make sure but just wish I could force myself to eat more. I really hope you don't mind me butting in and asking questions.

My fingers are crossed for you Alie and hope you get that :BFP:

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alie

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Monday, March 17th 2008, 9:25pm

Thanks girls

Tracey have you tried things like a smooth soup or veg drinks or smoothies, you can add tasty things that you like to them so you don't taste the veg so much - these are just my thoughts.

Congrats on DH's sperm, hope all goes well with your treatment

XX

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Friday, March 28th 2008, 3:49pm

What should i be eating/drinking/taking/doing whilst trying to concieve naturally???

Hi everyone

My name is laura and im 28 years old and i have been TTC for 3years.

I have just had my third cycle of IUI which failed and i am now waiting for an appointment to start IVF. I am really terrified at the thought of IVF and as i have approx two months of TTC naturally before my appointment, i am willing to try anything and everything in my power to enable me to have a natural pregnancy.

Soooo please anyone who has any tips or suggestions on which vitamins i should be taking, which foods i should be eating and avoiding, any herbal remedies, alternative therapies that people have found useful, any advice on bonding, just anything that they have heard, read or been told about that might help.

I would really appreciate it! and im sure it will be useful to others to.

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Friday, March 28th 2008, 4:17pm

Hi Laura, I am no expert but just eat plenty of Veg & healthy foods, they say oranges are really good for fertility, drink plenty of water....stay away from any caffeine drinks, I used to like coke and red bull but this is a no no
Stop alcohol and get plenty of exerise.

Have you tried acupunture some people say it helps, It didnt for me but it did help with AF pains and it relaxed me a bit

I would take Vit C too

Sorry if I havent help, you prob know all that anyway I just didnt want not to reply to your question, hopefully someone will come along soon and have better advice than me lol
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Friday, March 28th 2008, 4:29pm

Zinc seems to be a pretty important vitamin for fertility - for both of you.
as Leanne says exercise, eat well, drink little seems to be the way to go.

we will be back to ttc naturally in a month or so and are seeing a dietician in a couple of weeks so will let you know if she recommends anything in particular.

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Friday, March 28th 2008, 7:18pm

Thanks for your suggestions, hadn't heard of eating oranges, will def give that a go and i haven't been taking vitamin c either. To be honest i am terrible at drinking water and love a good coffee in the morning, think i need to get me some decaf! we have caffeine free coke at home, but i rarely drink that.
Zinc is another one im not taking either, shall get a pot those tablets too! im assuming i am okay to take various vitamins and minerals together, oh well will soon find out! lol

I have been talking to a lady today about booking acupuncture sessions, she deals in infertility only and has a good knowledge of fertility treatments and drugs, so going to book my first session for next week if she can fit me in.

Thanks for those suggestions, they are really helpful, i would be really interested to know what the dietician says to you Jensqui, many thanks

Keep them flooding in girls!!!! i will try any thing!!!!

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Friday, March 28th 2008, 7:58pm

Don't forget good old folic acid (sorry if stating the obvious) - I was just wondering how much money I've spent on it so far..........................

Maybe try a multivitamin, own brand ones are much cheaper too, Boots always doing three for two.

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Friday, March 28th 2008, 9:07pm

There is a book by Zita West, which has lots of info on diet, vits, exercise etc etc....I used it alot, like Gracie says, hope I am not stating the obvious!

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Saturday, March 29th 2008, 7:58am

Agree - the Zita West book is an excellent source

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Saturday, March 29th 2008, 11:38am

Depends how far you want to take it. I took it to the 'enth' degree on my last (successful) tx and went on a mega lifestyle change. It really is about being sensible and doing what is reasonable and right for you. I felt I had to give it everything, as I knew it could be my last ever attempt, so what I did was pretty drastic.

I cut out all caffeine, alcohol, fizzy drinks, anything processed, ready meals, etc.
I went to a nutristionist who practised kineseiology, and she recommended I cut out dairy and went on an anti-thrush diet, as I have always had thrush on and off. This meant no yeast (bread etc), cheese, sugar and chocolate (the hardest bit!), fruit, limited veg, vinegar, wheat... it was a killer, but I followed it for 2 months - 1 month prior to tx, then during tx and up to my BFP. I basically lived on protein (meat, chicken, fish, eggs), fresh veg, rice, potatoes, water and rice cakes!!!!! Chips were my only vice!!!
I also stopped using anything unnatural on my body as I wanted my liver to be as clean as possible to be able to process the drugs efficiently. I used natural deodrant (the normal stuff has loads of aluminium and other nasty stuff in it), toothpaste and creams/cosmetics. I spent a fortune in the health food shop! I took zinc and so did my dh. Actually, my dh followed this eating regime aswell, but fell off the wagon after a month!

I felt wonderful after a few weeks. I lost loads of weight, my hair and skin were fab, I had loads of energy and I just felt so healthy and positive. I can't begin to tell you how good I felt. It was sooooo hard but so worth it.

There's a really good book I found - Natural Fertility by Nikki Bradford - and Zita West is superb.

So go for it. You don't have to go to extremes, but if you are like me, a bit of a "all or nothing" kinda gal, then be as strict as possible. Zita West recommends as little gym/aerobic class activity as possible. Also - my acupuncturist said keep your feet and belly warm at ALL times!!!!!! So lie on the sofa, eating rice cakes, drinking water with your feet in a foot muff!!!!

Good luck.
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Saturday, March 29th 2008, 9:31pm

I have been goin to acupuncture for a few weeks. I go to a place that does a fertility package. i get acupuncture, hypnotherapy and a session with a nutritionist. Its only my first month of havin acupuncture so not sure its made that much difference. i always come out feelin very relaxed. I've just had my period and it was a little lighter than normal.
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Monday, March 31st 2008, 7:51am

Alie,

Thank you so much for your reply. You have given me some great advice and will try them all. It must sound so stupid that I don't like much fruit or veg.

One thing I did do yesterday, my DH got swede and carrot and mashed it together and I loved it. I think my problem is the texture of it all. I know this is the type of thing a child will have a problem with. I feel so stupid.

Thanks again for the advice :xxx3:

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 7:14pm

Thank you all for suggestions

They really of a great help, Zig i think your amazing if you stuck to that diet, wow! im not sure i could do the same, i dont however eat many prepacked foods and i eat tons of fruit, vegetables, rice and patsa, and little proteins as i dont really like meat. I do have quorn substitutes. I also dont really like milk, my only vice is cheese but i have reduced that greatly too.

Thanks again guys, you have been a real big help. xxx

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 11:16pm

Hi Missy

I went to see a consultant last month for IVF... Then ended up having a hysteroscopy and was diagnosed with inflammation inside the uteris. After a 7 day cause of antibiotics, she said that we should wait for my next cycle and then try naturally for several months before IVF...

So here I am... 28 year of age and in the same boat as you willing to try anything that MIGHT HELP!!!!

So far I decided that I will be taking Agnus Castus (my consultant was ok with me taking it)... Then she also recommended that I take Vit C 500mg and that my partner takes Beta-Carotene 10 mg (you can buy it in Holland & Barrett)...

Also I've read that it is beneficial to take Evening Primrose Oil 2000mg (improve your fertile mucus) from AF to ovulation and after that take Flaxseed Oil 1000mg.

Also I am taking Vitamin B6 50 mg and iron supplements (Fersaday from Boots).

Before taking iron supplements you should ask your doctor to test your Ferritin levels. If they come out below 40, you need to take iron supplements to boost your fertility.... My levels were 27, then gone up to 33 and I am hoping to be above 40 in 3-4 months time!!!

Good luck!!!!
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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 6:05pm

Thanks Honey bunny

I will add all of those things to my shopping list at Holland and Barrett.

Can i ask, did you have any signs that you had endometritis???

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 9:13pm

Hi Missy

I have been to H & B myself today... They have Agnus Castus on sale -75% off!!

About endometritis: there are 2 types: acute and chronic.

Obviously if you have an acute inflammation, you will know immediately as it is painful, you will have a discharge, fever, etc... You may even be hospitalised to get it treated...

However, I was diagnosed with a chronic form of endometritis... So I don't have a clue for how many months or even years I had it...

I had no symptoms at all...
Normally the doctors can only suspect it you are not able to conceive for a while and start seeking fertility treatment... :8o:

If you have a good consultant, he/she might spot it during ultrasound scan... This is how my consultant spotted it and then when I had hysteroscopy, she confirmed the diagnosis and the biopsy samples that they took confirmed it as well...

If your consultant offers you a hysteroscopy - definately go for it! The procedure lasts 15 min and then after an hour you can go home.. No pain, no cramps, nothing...

BUT I am sure that you won't need IVF and WE CAN DO IT NATURALLY!!!!
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Wednesday, April 2nd 2008, 9:37pm

Thanks for the positive message Honey bunny

The only reason i asked about the endometritis is that over the last few months i have found it slightly uncomfortable when we are bonding, i feel bruised almost. I think that it is worse around ovulation time, but i did read somewhere that it can be slightly painful during ovulation. Im sure it is nothing as i have had ultrasounds for IUI and my hycosy was clear so i know that my tubes are not blocked, but i just wondered if it could be endo. I think that bonding isn't for fun anymore, it's for baby making only, so it could be that i am focusing on that too much and being tense. Sorry if TMI!!!!

Thanks for getting back to me though.

Im sure we will get our beautiful babies soon!!! xxxxx

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Friday, April 4th 2008, 10:49pm

Hi Missy Moo,

I have definitely had that bruised feeling soon too. Think maybe it is a time of the month thing. Can also empathise with the feelings that bonding feels about something else now, such a pain. Hopefully won't be forever..............

Sunshine 75 :hugs:

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Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 2:13pm

Any other natural 'products' I can try to help with a BFP?

I'm on Clomid (1st Cycle) and have been taking 500mg vit c and also Evening Primrose Oil until OV, are there any other natural things I can try to help with a BFP?

I've read of people using Agnus Castus and cough mix but not sure how or why.

Any advice is greatly appreciated......

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Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 2:51pm

Mich

The cough syrup you are referring to is Robitussin. Clomid can cause hostile mucus and higher doses of Clomid tend to be associated with less cervical fluid and a thinner uterine lining. Robitussin can help to reverse this. I've not taken it myself but I think it is recommended to take it after you have taken your last clomid tablet for that cycle.

Agnus castus shouldn't be taken whilst you are on clomid as I understand it.

Also, have you looked over this thread INFO: A ROUGH GUIDE TO ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS

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Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 3:41pm

Thanks Bubble, I wouldn't have a clue where to start, I'm so glad I found this site and feel lucky to have people like you around for invaluable advice. blowkiss

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Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 3:55pm

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Eeyore

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Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 3:57pm

I think it was an error our end, can you try again?

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mich73

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Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 4:08pm

Thanks Eeyore, I can access it now X

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 12:49pm

Which Robitussin should I get??

how much do I take and for how long?

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bubble

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 1:16pm

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Which Robitussin should I get??

how much do I take and for how long?

I don't know for sure sorry hun. Not used it myself. I *think* its the cough syrup (possibly the one in the red bottle) and you just take the recommended daily dose on the bottle from the first day of your AF until ovulation.

Maybe PM Leanne76 as I know she has used it?

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mich73

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 1:30pm

Thanks Bubble

I've just done a search and got some info that Eeyore posted a while back.

Def think AF is on her way, just have to try it all again next month.....

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bubble

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 1:36pm

Mich

I found this as well which might help Robitussin and CM info ...

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mich73

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 1:53pm

That's really helpful and interesting!! Bring on next month.

Off camping for a week now so will catch up with everyone when I get back. X

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 2:55pm

Vit C and Fertility ????

Hi there,

Can anyone tell me about Vit C and fertility?
When I went to my accupuncturist back in Jan he said not to drink any orange juice unless it was fresh? I don't really understand as I am getting conflicting stories.
Anyway if anyone knows anything and would like to share it, I am all ears! :smile:

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bubble

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 4:07pm

Hi Jo

If you do a search on Vitamin C, you'll find numerous references to it on the site.

Studies have shown that Vit C has a significant impact on both sperm motility and conception and a sufficient intake of all the essential vitamins is of real importance for the production of healthy eggs and sperm. It is an antioxidant which blocks the damaging action of free radicals.

Zita West recommends a dose of 500mg a day.

I don't understand why you would have been told only fresh orange juice. Remember as well that Vit C can be found in other foods, not just citrus fruits, such as strawberries, broccoli, cantaloupe melon, tomatoes, sweet peppers, spinach (for example).

Hope that helps

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 4:13pm

Thanks a lot Bubble,

I am not sure either why I was told only fresh orange juice but actually another accupuncturist in the UK said the same thing. Guess there must be something in it!

J x

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bubble

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 4:16pm

I imagine only the normal benefits of drinking freshly squeezed over carton. But if its a case of a carton vs none at all, I'd go for the carton!

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 4:18pm

yeah I guess so!
Not sure if they just recommend the processed stuff and try and take it in as natural a form as possible?

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 4:27pm

The nutrional info I have come across with regards to an optimum TTC diet is very much on the no processed foods etc line. If you fancy reading something I quite liked 'Getting pregnant faster' by Dr Marilyn Glenville - she's a PHD doctor rather than a medical doctor and advocates a nutrional approach to fertility issues.

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Jo101

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 4:29pm

Ah yes...I have heard of that lady alright. The ccupuncturist in the UK mentioned her to me.....
Mmmmm perhaps I need to get a hold of her book!

Thanks Bubble :xxx3:

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Friday, June 13th 2008, 9:09pm

Personally, I'd call orange juice in a carton fresh orange juice.

Perhaps your accupuncturist meant it too. Maybe she was against the idea of products like sunny d which are so sweet they must have hundreds of additives in them.

Take care

Sue xxx

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Acupuncture -v- Nutritionist?

RE: Acupuncture -v- Nutritionist?

What should i be eating/drinking/taking/doing whilst trying to concieve naturally???

Any other natural 'products' I can try to help with a BFP?

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