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Friday, February 2nd 2007, 11:08pm

DIET, VITAMINS & SUPPLEMENTS

hi all

not sure if this is the right section to post on but i want to do all i can to maximise chances and was wondering if anyone has tried zita west's vitamins - its quite expensive given they're only a month's supply and actually it looks like you should get 2 lots, the 'vitafem' and 'vital DHA'. is this a con or does it work?

we eat fairly healthily but usually not organic. i drink between 2-3 litres of water a day and a litre of milk. when i'm being good i drink nettle tea and no caffiene. is it worth shelling out the extra money for organic food? there's so much information and so many confliciting information and there can be so many factors that contribute to conception... but is it down to pure luck or does this all help or am i getting too obsessed and exhausting myself unnecessarily?

we got pre-seed last month as my dh works with someone who now swears by it. but would she have got pg anyway? i feel like we could spend a fortune online and it still come to nothing.

i know most of these questions are rhetoric but just wondering if any of you have any thoughts?

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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 10:20am

personally I would stick to Pregnacare and Equazen Mumomega...I did and little one is great......I think ZW cashes in on it all...her book is good tho

I did follow an organic fertility diet tho too and only drank mint tea, water and hot choc (for milk imtake)



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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 10:26am

We eat as close to 100% organic as we can - not for our fertility but because of the general health benefits and I took the zita west supplements throughout my IVF. I didn't take the dha supplement but we use Cool Oil form the 'groovy food co' and it's actually better in lots of ways in terms of omega 3.

DH and I used acupuncture throughout ivf too - see my posts in the thread ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES & DIET to see tyhe amazing affect it has on dh's sperm quality.

I think if I had unexplained infertility I would definitely try the whole zita west programme - detox and diet. It has been proved that the chemicals and hormones in meat and pesticides in non-organic food seriously disrupt fertility. But you both need to do it unless your partner has amazing sperm on his current diet.

I'm sure you'll get lots of people saying it's all a rip off but I've cured other health conditions I have through natural health and diet but you need to take a hollistic approach and start with a detox. I did a three week supervised water fast in August followed by juicing and into a heathy organic diet as a run up to IVF this January. But I would say I am very hardcore about it all and I'm sure there are people who have had good results with zita west's detox - which is pretty easy - all you really cut out is sugar and some dairy.

So I would say go for it.
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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 2:14pm

Thank you both - this is really helpful. I think I will definitely look more into this. DH's swimmers are ok but not amazing, but persuading him may be a little more challenging.

Still, I'll definitely give it a try.
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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 2:42pm

Well DH will need to accept that fertility takes two. I know it's hard and men often find it difficult to face they have any problem but if you take a natural health/diet approach, both partners need to work at it.

There was about a year and a half where we thought our infertility was caused by my DH's sperm as he had a varicocele and high abnormal forms so I do understand the challenges you're facing.

If you get time to read the alternative therapies thread in the IVF section please do. My DH's normal forms went from 15% to 42% in 3 weeks with acupuncture and reducing how much he exercised.
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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 4:12pm

Also Pods, I think its important to decide for yourselves where to draw the line. Yes you want to maximise your chances, but you also need to maintain both your sanity and your relationship. For us that meant cutting down on alcohol but not stopping it altogether. We decided that if we did that and never had a child we would be able to live with ourselves, but if we didn't enjoy the occasional bottle of wine together we would go mad! Also if we were never successful, we didn't want to have never had any fun together because we were always worrying about the effects on our fertility.




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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 5:08pm

Yes, very good point Mrs Jasper. Everyone's different and can take it to different levels. We were into natural health long before we knew we had fertility issues so it was easy for us to use more radical approaches. You have to do what's right for you within your own limitations. It's worth looking at lots of different approaches, reading statistics and anecdotal evidence and then seeing which ones suit you and your lifestyle best.
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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 5:19pm

My dh also gave up alcohol for a couple of months before treatment to maximise his potential ....and did a slightly less rigourous version of my diet (Zitas fertiltiy diet)..........organic is good I do believe in it as I also agree with E44 re the acu and holistic approach....I had acu at a fertiltiy specialist acu clinic (fantastic results) and during my 1st lot of tx I actually went to see Zita West herself and she basically just did what was in the book apart from burning copper on my toenails (eeeeuuuuw)......None of my first lots of IVF were successful.

With this recent (successful) attempt I used the acu and her book (I believe it gives you everything you need and is excellent) but feel that her supplements are overpriced ...my friend took them but went back to pregnacare and equizen mumomega....I stuck with pregancare and Equizen

At the end of the day you must do what feels comfotable for you.....




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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 5:34pm

Hi Pods,
When I spoke to my clinic (who promote Zita West) about vitamins and minerals they told me as long as I got a reputable brand of multi vits and mins that would be fine (boots, sainsburys etc are ok) and I shouldn't feel it necessary to fork out for the more expensive brands. It's difficult as you want to do everything you can but where do you draw the line? I've recently started taking DHA from a heath food shop too. If this cycle doesn't work I'll look to see what I can change next time and I guess that might be looking at more specialised brands and spending more money!

We used pre-seed for months before getting our diagnosis, I know a few people on the fertility boards who swear by it. It's difficult not to try things if there's even the slimest chance that they might work!

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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 6:03pm

its really interesting reading this thread!

Im at that point where im thinking whats worth ding now, what isnt? are we wasting money etc etc? are we being too harsh with ourselves?mmmmmm

seemed to have tried everything from changing diet, taking various herbs and vitamins, cutting out alcohol and caffeine, then relaxing and not being so rigid, the cutting it out again, sometimes feel im going round in circles!!!...even tried eating honey (which i dont like) cos someone told me that can help balance hormones etc!!!

now i just take my pronantal, my clomid cd1-5, dh takes his vits. we try to eat fruit and veg etc, and are cutting out alcohol and caffeine still. We use preseed too, and am seeing a new reflexologist next week so hoping that will help!

but ive stopped trying to find new things each month that may help, and just hope what we are doing is ok!!!! :)

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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 7:30pm

I was on pregnacare also DH changed his diet, went on green tea and decaf coffee, also took multibionta and his sc went from 9mil to 33mil in the space of about a month!

But that is all, we didn't do organic, just ate a bit healthier.
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Saturday, February 3rd 2007, 8:46pm

Well I have just spent the last few hours absorbed in Zita West's book - very interesting reading! I also bought Pregnacare Plus, which includes DHA tablets. So a step up from just the folic acid I was taking. I got some zinc tablets for DH ages ago (with some other bits and bobs in there as well) but he drifts in and out of taking them.

I think I will try the detox and the fertility diet. It may not take too much persuading of DH as I thought either as he was talking only this morning about how he thinks he may be lactose intolerant so he wants to try 2 weeks off dairy products and possibly wheat as well before reintroducing. The stuff about acupunture for men is interesting - he's not averse to complimentary therapies as I know he's done some stuff before including acupuncture. The only issue really is cost. Organic food, vitamins, therapies all add up. But as you say Suzy its hard not to try stuff if you think it might work, and when nothing else has so far.

We eat healthily in the sense that we don't really eat processed foods and we do eat a lot of vegetables (probably not enough fruit), but I don't think we'd win an epitomy of healthy lifestyle award. We've both enjoyed a drink (though I rarely do these days - usually on af's arrival) and we don't get enough exercise. But then I think you're right Mrs J that we shouldn't give ourselves too much of a hard time. I know if I tried to introduce a no-booze regime that wouldn't work and he'd end up resenting me and the situation which would be damaging in terms of the relationship and what we want to achieve. Unless I could somehow manage to let him think it was his idea (hmmm...).

Thanks for all your replies to this - its really fascinating, and obviously different things work for different people.

Emilia - will definitely have a look at the thread on the IVF board as well!

Cheers all x
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Sunday, February 4th 2007, 9:19am

One thought Pods re organic food - we've been eating it so long I've found ways to do it as cheaply as poss but I have several organic shops near me and can shop around so it's easy. Most people don't have that luxury so if you don't want the extra expense of eating organic but want to try and reap the health benefits where you can, then try these tips:

1) If you can only buy a few organic things then go for organic milk, tomatoes, eggs and when ever you can meat. (Non organic meat is full of hormones and chemicals that disrupt your hormones and most tomatoes are genetically modified. Organic Milk and eggs just have more nutrients than non-organic.) Budgens and M&S both sell free range chicken that isn't as pricey as organic but doesn't have the hormones etc.

Asda is cheapest for organic meat and some of it is very reasonable. Organic minced beef is about £1.79 at Asda and £1.99 at Morrisons as opposed to £2.99 at Tesco and M&S.

there are internet stores that deliver organic veggie boxes to most parts of the country and generally these work out far cheaper than pre packaged non organic veggies anyway.

2) Eat sea fish - not farmed fish - no extra price but doesn't have the chemicals in. Also very healthy and full of protein.

3) If you eat non organic fruit and veggies, just soak them for about 10-20 minutes in a bowl of water with a drop of vinegar and rinse before eating. It takes the pesticides off the skin.

4) Get some powdered spirulina from a health store and have a spoon in apple juice daily. It is the most nutrient rich food and v high in protein. I used it instead of milk while stimming as I don't like too much dairy. I think Zita West talks about spirulina but then most health gurus do! It can undo lots of damage in the body from chemicals etc. In juice you won't notice the flavour. It's messy though so be warned! I mix mine in with a milk frother as it's hard to mix otherwise.

5) I swear by powdered vitamin c taken to 'bowel tolerance level' - google it for the research - especially during illness or detox and then at a maintenance level.



Hope those tips help Pods. The vinegar to get off pesticides is a good one because I think pesticides are one of the most damaging things about non-organic fruit/veg.

Love to hear how you get on with whatever diet/detox you choose. You DH sounds better than most if he'll embrace non dairy!
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Sunday, February 4th 2007, 9:03pm

wow thanks Emilia - thats so helpful. I never knew that about soaking fruit and veg. We've been thinking for a while about getting a box so I think the time's right now to look into this properly. Good to know where to get cheaper meat from as well. I seem to remember taking spirulena a while back and I'm pretty sure I took it in tablet form.

Anyway, this is really great practical advice - thanks, I really appreciate it.
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Sunday, February 4th 2007, 10:52pm

Fantastic advice Emilia..........maybe we should ask the mods about either making this sticky or having a sticky vit/diet thread




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Monday, February 5th 2007, 10:31am

Good idea tinkerbell - lots of the other forums have quite big alternative health and diet threads and it's great to pick up tips.

When I started eating organically I knew nothing about it really. My siter had been doing it for about 3 years and everytime she went on at me about it I just said we wouldn't be able to afford it and dismissed it out of hand. But then I watched a programme about what is actually in non-organic food - meat especially and I felt so sickened I decided to switch.

Initially I really struggled to afford it hence looking for ways round it. Also you can't always get everything organic so if i want to amke a recipe with courgettes but can't get prganic ones, I buy regular and soak them in vinegar and water and don't feel so bad!

But for those with plenty of money M&S Simply Food stores do amazing organic food! We have one right near us so I buy a few things there but to do my whole shop would break the bank. Whenever I go near an Asda I buy lots of organic meat and stock the freezer up! And I find buying big bags or organic brown rice and cous cous and quinoa etc from local health stores pretty cheap. Rice etc goes a long way and fills you up so if I only have a small piece of organic meat I'll boil up some rice and make a stirfry with whatever veggies I have and the meat too. Waitrose and Sainsburys have good ranges too and some of the stuff at sainsburys isn't too expensive.

Anyway - this is my first day up out of bed since transfer and DH is back at work so I am off to my organic shop in a minute to do some shopping!
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Monday, February 5th 2007, 7:55pm

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Thursday, April 26th 2007, 1:12pm

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Does anybody now if it unsafe/harmful to take too many vitamins whilst ttc? I am currently taking a mulitivitamin with probiotics (recommended by reflexologist for stomch irritation), Sea Kelp (for thyroid), Evening Primrose Oil (balancing hormones), Zinc (immune system), folic acid (ttc!) and agnus castus to help with my cycle.

Does this sound like too much? Could I be doing more harm than good??

Thanks for your help!

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Thursday, April 26th 2007, 1:45pm

RE: Vitamins

Hi Ceri

I take many supplements depending on what I need at one time.

I am a Kinesiologist (what is that I hear you ask!) and I have nutritional training. I certainly recommend nutrition to my clients often more than a few types at one time.

I can't comment on your situation as I haven't tested you for the nutrition and your not my client but if it helps the Recommended Daily Amounts are so minimal, for optimum nutrition what we need is alot higher than the government states.

I believe that all of us should take daily Vitamins B, C, Fish oils and a good multivitamin. I take at least 9-10 tablets a day and have done for many years, it hasn't done me any harm and I am very healthy.

If you have any adverse effects or don't feel right then you may want to eliminate to see if there's any difference.

Hope that helps.

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Thursday, April 26th 2007, 3:33pm

Thanks for the reply Stacey

I feel reassured now, I just didn't know whether or not I was going to overdose on goodness!

Cheers

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Thursday, April 26th 2007, 10:34pm

just make sure you aren't taking any supplements with vitamin A in them as these aren't recommended in pregnancy/ttc as high levels can cause abnormalities
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Friday, April 27th 2007, 7:51am

I think vit A, agnus castus and evening primrose aren't recommended when you are pregnant.
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Thursday, July 26th 2007, 11:50am

Folic acid tablets

Hello people,
A while ago I tried to take those prenantal folic acid tablets to help my body prepare ect... but after taking them I was either sick or felt very sick afterwards.
Has any body had the same experience? If so is there an alternative?
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Saturday, July 28th 2007, 6:21pm

Hi Angel

Do you take them after food? I used to feel quite sick after taking Sanatogen ProNatal tablets, but then I saw a nutritionist who told me off for taking them first thing in the morning on an empty stomach (she said this could also stop you from absorbing the vitamins properly). Now I have a proper breakfast before taking my tablet and I feel fine...

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Sunday, July 29th 2007, 3:50pm

Nope, never *touch wood* felt sick after taking my vits.

I also take them after Ive had breakfast too though, so thats maybe why?!

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Sunday, July 29th 2007, 5:58pm

It's always better to take any supplements with food as it helps your body to absorb the content. Never felt ill myself after taking vits, so don't know what the answer is for you I'm afraid.
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Monday, July 30th 2007, 9:55am

The girls are right. Always take your tablets on a full stomach. I use to feel really ill on mine until my GP told me take them on a full stomach Oh and drink plenty of water it helps them to break up easier.

Hope this works for you.
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Thursday, August 30th 2007, 9:45pm

Supa dupa suplements?!!?

Evening guys,

Does anyone know much about supplements? apart from folic acid does anyone else reccomend anything or advise against taking? I heard from soewhere that you where meant to take 'kelp' if TTC - unsure why really does anyone have any veiws on this?



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Thursday, August 30th 2007, 10:29pm

I think as long as your basic diet is good (lots of fruit, veg and in general unprocessed food) and that you stay away from lots of sugar and salt then you should be fine with just the folic acid.

Kelp is iron rich but then you might as well eat spinach :)
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Thursday, August 30th 2007, 11:07pm

nope 'fraid not - spinach is iron rich but the iron it contains is locked away in molecules called chelates - so its not bioavailable to us when we eat it. The chelates are really good at grabbing onto and holding onto iron, which is why, chemically, spinach is so full of iron, but they hold on to it so tightly that it passes straight through the gut without being absorbed. Seaweed and algae have high iron contents that are more easily absorbed than that in spinach.

Even if you do have an excellent and varied diet, you can't be absolutely sure that your absorption of vitamins and minerals is working as well as it should - so there is no harm in investing in a pre-natal vitamin supplement - there are lots of brands with fairly similar formulae but very different prices - the supermarket own brands are the best value for money.

Its worth buying a pre-natal/pregnancy supplement rather than standard multivit/minerals because the vitamin A content is limited to safe levels for pregnancy and is usually in a precursor form which the body naturally excretes any excess of (rather than vitamin A itself which can be harmful to the baby if taken in excess). Pre-natal vits usually have lots of calcium in which the standard supplements leave out because it makes the pills bulky.

However, as Torisen says the most vital supplement is folic acid because a deficiency of folate causes spina bifida.

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Friday, August 31st 2007, 6:37am

Mousie, are there any other foods in a natural diet that is iron rich but easily absorbed?
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Friday, August 31st 2007, 8:01am

The most easily absorbable sources of iron are meat sources (liver has v high iron, red meat has high iron, poultry has fairly high iron as does fish) - this sort of iron is held in a structure called "haem" which is the same structure used in the human body so haem iron is readily taken up by the body.

Vegetarian sources of iron are less bioavailable because the iron is in a non-haem form. Pulses (beans and lentils) and nuts have the most iron, but most fruit and veg contain some iron as do wholegrain cereals. Most breakfast cereals are fortified with iron.

Absorption of iron, especially vegetarian source can be increased by combining the iron rich food with vitamin C e.g., by drinking a glass of OJ.

Tea reduces iron absorption so its best to drink water with meals rather than tea.

Iron requirements go up a lot in pregnancy, so much so that research has found that the body becomes more efficient at absorbing iron.

You should be more concerned about iron intake if you develop symptoms of anaemia such as prolonged tiredness and looking pale or if you tend to have heavy or frequent AF.

Iron can be fatally toxic in overdose, especially in young children, so SUPPLEMENTS CONTAINING IRON MUST BE LOCKED AWAY, and you should not take supplements containing more than the standard RDA for iron except under a doctor's direction. Off the shelf pre-natal supplements are within safe limits.

For the body to use iron effectively to make new blood cells it also needs Vit B12 which comes partly from diet but is also made in the body by bacteria that live in the gut. Some people are poor absorbers of Vit B12 and can therefore develop anaemia (and low iron count) because they lack B12. Dietary sources are meat, eggs and dairy so it can be difficult for vegetarians to get enough B12. Excess vit B12 is safely excreted from the body.

Hope this is some use

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Friday, August 31st 2007, 8:23am

I believe everybody should be on a good multivitamin, vitamin C and omega 3 every day. These are just the basic's we all need.
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Friday, August 31st 2007, 8:39am

There was this big debate in Sweden about humans eating too much vitamines instead of re-arranging their diet.
Unfortunatly I did not read enough of it so can't say that I know much more...

I still believe that you can get enough vitamins (except for folic acid) via your diet.
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Friday, November 30th 2007, 6:59pm

How soon to take vitamins befor IVF cycle

Hi girls, about to embark on my 3rd cycle, short cycle on menopur, how soon should I start taking folic acid, I have been taking pregnacare for the last week but wondered whether its too soon, I am starting my drugs on 20 Feb, any advice? Also on my last cycle I was religiously good on everything, no alcohol, strict healthy diet but it didn't work, but its worth doing this again isn't it just so my body is in tip top condition?

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Friday, November 30th 2007, 7:10pm

It isn't too early.
I was suggested to start several months before (but of course didn't)
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Friday, November 30th 2007, 7:11pm

i don't start taking vits til down reg as im down regging for 5 weeks....be interested to know what everyone else things

maybe i will start sooner

as you know hun you must do what you feel comtable with
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Friday, November 30th 2007, 9:18pm

They recommend women who are planning a baby to start taking folic acid 3 months beforehand, so I would start taking it now. It needs time to build up in your diet, if you have a deficiency now, then it will take time to repair the effects of the deficiency. So start straight away. I haven't stopped taking the supplements since I first started on our IVF treatment last year. It won't do any harm at all, it's not as if it's a 'pregnant women only supplement', we all need it and most of us are deficient in it. I've got my DH on folic acid too as it has been known to improve sperm quality.
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Friday, November 30th 2007, 9:22pm

Thanks hun that's great. so its okay to take pregnacare then now is it?

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Friday, November 30th 2007, 11:14pm

think i will start mine again asap
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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 10:11am

I was told the same thing as Mrs Smiff - to start taking folic acid 3 months before IVF cycle.


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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 11:45am

I was advised to start a good multivit with Folic Acid when I went for my initial consultation in Feb and started treatment in June. As Mrs S said it is adisable to be on a good multivit (eg pregnacare) for at least 3 months before TTC be it natural or with treatment. Also, do not stop it between cycles but just keep going all the way through to PG and beyond - I am still on Pregnacare at present and have no plans to stop any time soon...


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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 1:24pm

Pregnacare is on special offer in Asda, 90 for £8.00 at the moment.


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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 1:42pm

ooh, thanks Polly P, I may well get myself down there!
I've been taking it ever since we started ttc, back in 2005. didn't think ti would do any harm (except to my purse!)


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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 4:50pm

Come on girlies get that folic acid on board NOW even if you don't know when your next treatment will be. There are those on here who have fallen pregnant by surprise even when they thought there was no chance at all. There is no better way of getting all the vits and mins you need than eating a perfectly balanced diet, but then who of us does that? Even with the best will in the world there are few people who get all the essentials in. A good multi vitamin can only be of help, and if it helps to get your reproductive system in tip top shape before treatment then it can only be good.
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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 5:11pm

i have pregncare

so will start popping now
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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 7:44pm

Well done Kara, hope everyone is following suit!!
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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 9:12pm

Me too, have started it already. Thanks girls.

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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 9:13pm

yep i took mine too

we are so good arent we :D
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Saturday, December 1st 2007, 9:19pm

We need halos over our head, sat in tonight, no alcohol but me and dh have just been stuffing maltesers so need those vitamins lol, Kara, you are a well cool driver, my dh is well impressed, he is well into his cars!!!

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5 frosties
April 09 ectopic pregnancy


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