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Monday, October 8th 2007, 4:05pm

anyone had acouncture on the perenium?

is this point in the german study?
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Monday, October 8th 2007, 4:51pm

I don't know if it is in the German study and I would doubt it - my acupuncturist didn't do it but it is the most potent fertility point there is. I don't know how useful it is for IVF but I do know a girl who had trouble conceiving, had this point done and got pregnant in the next cycle.

Not all acupuncturists do it because it is such a private location and mine felt that the accumulation of the other fertility points was just as good. But to be honest if she'd offered to do it I would have probably said yes - afterall we'd do anything wouldn't we if someone said it worked!

But I don't think it's for the squeamish!
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Monday, October 8th 2007, 4:55pm

i think it may well be in the study as last week my acpuncture lady said we would talk about the points closer to et time and out was her book with this one showing lol

not that i would be embrassed as so many people have seen those bits now lol

i am finding acouncture is deffo helping me...pmt is ok no tears at all....still waiting for af but she is only a day late
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Monday, October 8th 2007, 5:42pm

That's great Kara - might take a while to get af balanced out but as long as you feel its helping that's a good thing.
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Wednesday, October 17th 2007, 11:43am

BBC news -Accupuncture & Success

Never actually had accupuncture myself, but I know alot of ladies who have, successful and unsuccesful, but does make intyeresting reading


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7047431.stm

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Wednesday, October 17th 2007, 12:08pm

RE: BBC news -Accupuncture & Success

Interesting article but the research is based on two treatments only - one before ET and one after. You need a period of time for acupuncture to have a positive affect on the body. 1 treatment in a toxic body could cause such a significant release in toxins I can imagine pregnancy would be impossible for the body.

I hate research like this - they need to look at women having the correct protocol over a time period alongside an ivf cycle which would be completely different. This study will just put people off trying it and it can - in my opinion and experience - be really helpful.

I know my body and I know without any doubt that it was the acupuncture alongside other toxin reducing natural health measures that helped me get pg first time with ivf. If nothing else it's ability to relax me and help maintain a positive attitude - an otherwise very stressed person with a real ability to focus on the negative - was the key to my success. One treatment in the 2ww - I walked in certain everything was over and walked out feeling calm and the next day pg symptoms started - that might sound crazy but its true. It had the ability to alter my state of mind from the most negative to the most positive.

Anyway - I know there are some real mixed opinions on this out there but I don't think a study like this helps. It just isn't realistic. But definitely worth reading & looking at more.
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Wednesday, October 17th 2007, 12:12pm

RE: BBC news -Accupuncture & Success

Emilia

I think the fact that you decribed how you felt from "walking in feeling everything was over" to walking out really positive, only shows just how much Accu helped!!! the study was a little too small to have any real relivance, but interesting reading, I think each day there will always be some study brought to our attention on IVF positive or Negative!!!! unfortunately thats just the way this counrty works eh! :yes:

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Wednesday, October 17th 2007, 8:44pm

i read a guardian artilcel today haven't clicked the link yet

made me nervous thnking i was doing it and it would harm my chances but i have to say i have never felt so well seen having acupuncture....

will have a read now
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Wednesday, October 17th 2007, 8:48pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1933901.stm

thought i would add something good.

this is the first month ever my pmt has been hardly anything!!!!!down to the acupuncture is all i can put it down to
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Thursday, October 18th 2007, 10:25am

Me too Kara - PMT has virtually disappeared since I started going and that has to be good!

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Tuesday, January 8th 2008, 10:25am

A fertility friend of mine recently fell pg on her 7th IVF attepmt and the only thing different she done was accupuncture, I have only ever heard good things and will be definately havign accupuncture when I have my first IVF - if money permits will try on my 3rd and final IUI also.


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Monday, January 28th 2008, 3:29pm

Anyone recommend Accupuncturist in Nottinghamshire area?

Just wondering if anyone has used any in the Nottinghamshire area and if they can let me know as so many around but would love a recommendation.


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Monday, January 28th 2008, 11:07pm

RE: Anyone recommend Accupuncturist in Nottinghamshire area?

:hi: Wiccan....I'm looking for one as well....I found one in Sherwood who specialises in fertility....she's listed on the British Acupuncture Council. You can do searches here.

http://www.acupuncture.org.uk/content/Pr…practition.html

I've been going to one in Southwell but having been gearing myself up for this current tx she told me today she's going to be away the week of my EC when she said she'd do a home visit...and all because it's half term (rub the salt in!!)

I'd quite like to see someone different anyway to find out how they vary. It's not like choosing a hairdresser where you can tell a good'un from a bad'un.....so I'll let you know if I have any joy.

Which clinic are you at? I'm at Nurture...I'm there on Thursday and will see if they have any leaflets there.

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Tuesday, January 29th 2008, 10:41am

Hi hun, yes I googled and found the Sherwood one.

I am going through NHS tx at the mo so at the QMC Fertility Clinic hun - I am in on Wednesday and Friday this week.


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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 6:05pm

Accupuncture, is it a benefit..???

Hi guys,

Being really lazy here and should search on the net, but am about to start third attempt at IVF and we are considering accupuncture this time, can someone point me in the right direction for the benefits of it. Can you also suggest when is the best time to start it? Have I left it too late if planning to start treatment around 10 March?

I don't like needles (even though am fine injecting myself) but just wondered if any of you actually felt that it benefited you as the thought of it creeps me out a bit.

Thanks in advance
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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 6:19pm

Hi Lizzy

I've been having acu sine Nov in preparation of IUI. I thought the same thing re the needles but it's not that bad at all. They are a different kind of needles. I had very irregular cycles but they are almost perfect now and I do attribute this to acu, it also helps me to chill. Why not give it a try you've nothing to loose!

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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 6:29pm

i have been having acupuncture since sept 2007 and have found it really helped me emotional
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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 7:21pm

Thanks, how often are you supposed to have it? Is it a once a week thing? Have read on here that people have them before and after transfer but just meant normally, can imagine going and being conned and guilted into have it loads.
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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 7:54pm

I go once a week and it cost £35, have a ring around and find a place you feel comfortable with. Good luck!x


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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 8:07pm

i go once a week and as it was a long term thing, she gave me a massive discount on 50%, i pay £20 a session which is a bargain
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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 8:13pm

RE: Accupuncture, is it a benefit..???

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Hi guys,

Being really lazy here and should search on the net, but am about to start third attempt at IVF and we are considering accupuncture this time, can someone point me in the right direction for the benefits of it. Can you also suggest when is the best time to start it? Have I left it too late if planning to start treatment around 10 March?

I don't like needles (even though am fine injecting myself) but just wondered if any of you actually felt that it benefited you as the thought of it creeps me out a bit.

Thanks in advance

:hello: Lizzy-Lou
I was questioning acu too, I lookied at lots of stuff on the internet and chatted about it on this site. I asked the nurses at the hospital and was told that it is very good for women who have hormonal imbalances, older women (35+, their words not mine). I was also told that it is very expensive approx £65 for the initial consultation and then £45 after in my area. The nurse said that it does have its benefits and lots of women on this site seem really positive about it.
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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 8:20pm

I've been having acupuncture once a week for this cycle. Only having E/C on Monday, so don't know whether there have been any benefits with the no. of eggs, quality yet... But I've been a lot more relaxed and calm for this cycle.
The needles are nothing, and I hate needles. I think that because I'm used to the needles for the meds now they look sooooo small. And there's no 'pressure' after of drugs going in or blood going out!
I started quite late in my tx - if I need to go again I'd start earlier.

I hope everything goes well,
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Saturday, February 16th 2008, 8:22pm

Thanks guys, am gonna bite the bullet and book a session for next week.....aaarrgh

Although the cost is important and we are by no means rich or anything I think it's a case of sod it what the heck, when you're spending over £4000 what's an extra few hundred, the figures don't seem real until the credit card bills arrive
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Tuesday, February 19th 2008, 5:27pm

Just to let you know I had my first session today and it wasn't that bad, can't be bad as I've booked another for next week....!!!
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Wednesday, February 20th 2008, 7:06pm

Im a local lass too!!

Hey ladies

Just picked up this thread and noticed I'm a local lass too, indeed I spoke to Tracey from the Southwell acu place just yesterday, not doing it this time round as too late to impact on eggies, but if I not lucky, will def look into it!

DM, just posted on your diary, hoping youre feeling ok now, and Wican hows it going for you???

Are you both at Nurture with Dr Vindl??
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Wednesday, February 20th 2008, 7:27pm

RE: Im a local lass too!!

Hi Cathie

Tracey's who i see...there's another lady in Southwell too...forget her name.

I think I posted that last one on a bad day....slightly gutted not to have the whole EC/ET sessions but in the end my eggs were so much better than first time round I put this partly down to having had acupuncture for 6 months! (plus drugs/change of diet/supps etc).

She's really lovely and if you live locally you'll see her advertising her practice in the Southwell mag.

Unfortunately (my opinion) she's moving to the Physio centre by the Coop which doesn't have the same ambience as the BOdy and Soul place but i appreciate it's not a "pamper" session!

Thanks for the post in my diary Cathie :cuddle Who's Dr Vindl btw??

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Thursday, February 21st 2008, 11:51am

I had 2 sessions of acupuncture during a previous round of IUISO and found it extremely painful. The needles that were just put in and left felt like nothing at all, but the ones that the woman kin of flicked were really painful so could face any more than 2 sessions. Everyone I've spoken to since has said that they didn't find it painful so am thinking maybe it was just a poor therapist????

Am going to try it again with a Chinese therapist as I did get my one and only BFP during the cycle with acupuncture (although MC'd at 7 weeks). Fingers crossed I was just very unlucky with the last therapist.
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Friday, February 22nd 2008, 11:17am

RE: Im a local lass too!!

Hi m'dear

He's the local cons at the kingsmill hosp hospital in mansfield, and i know he does privaye work at care / nurture too, so thought he might be your cons?? Never mind, must be me having a moment.

Tracey did seem really nice and will def try her if am not lucky this time (which of course we will be) so maybe we will see her for manageing birth pains lol!!!

I study at Brac, so drive past the co-op every week!!!! Hope youre feeling better today

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Friday, February 22nd 2008, 10:55pm

I live for my acupuncture! I did it for two previous IVFs... not sure if it affected my cycle in a 'traditional chinese medicine' kind of way, or if it just helped me relax and focus. Either way, I find it really keeps me balanced, especially with all of these hormones racing. And I love the smell of moxa too! :-)

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Monday, February 25th 2008, 10:52am

Well had my acupuncture with the Chinese soctor on Saturday and it didn't hurt at all, was actually very relaxing. The only thing I didn't find relaxing was the suggestion that I needed their special mix of chinese herbs at a cost of £35 per week. Kind of got swept up to buy the first week and did give it a try - a bag of stuff that looked like it came from the woods!!! It made me vomit, it was absolutely hideous and I couldn't manage any more.

I intend to take the 6 other bags back to the shop and tell them it made me sick but I doubt I'll see any of my £35 back. It does make me cross that everything we try seems to be at such a cost, how do people think everyone has that sort of money lying around. I paid nearly £400 up front for my 13 prescribed session, and then they asked for another £400 for 11 weeks of damn herbs!

Will be firm when I go back, I'm not taking any herbs!!!!
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Monday, February 25th 2008, 11:08am

it your gona have acupuncture you really should go to the someone who is regged with the british acupuncture council

http://www.acupuncture.org.uk/

was his a high street walk in one?
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Monday, February 25th 2008, 11:30am

when i was starting icsi number two i spoke to my cons at guys and he said that they had done some research and it showed to help a cycle, he didnt understand how or why, just that it was beneficial.... i went to this person http://www.londonacupuncture.co.uk/ and the guy there is used by a lot of girls from clinics inc argc... link not endorsed by FZ but posted by me...
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Monday, February 25th 2008, 1:39pm

I found aupuncture great when l was trying to conceive my son.

I had had a cystectomy in jan 05 and tried clomid in Aug 05 and we were going to start iui in jan 06 but l wanted to try a natural approach.

so l went every week for 3 months and my husband went a few times as well and it help me in all manner of ways to generally be a bit happier.

My acupuncturist told me she had got my body at its best and to take a break from it for a month. so we booked a new year break to Dublin got hammered and had a great time.

we found out at our appointment in Jan 06 that we were pregnant.

call it what you will, it could be fate or that it was finially my turn but l feel it works for me and l'm now saving to go for another course to see if we can get ds a play mate!
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Wednesday, February 27th 2008, 1:41pm

Accupuncture

I went for my first session of accupuncture last night. Ongoing research is showing it can increase IVF success rates from 28% to 50+%. The aim is to get the uterus and its lining into its best possible state pre embroyo transfer. It didn't hurt at all - I had needles in my head, hands, tummy and lower legs ... 14 in all I think. I just felt a little headachey afterwards and pretty chilled out which was nice. i reckon it's worth a try - deffo. Have given up smoking which is paying for it. Cost is £33 a go. And once a week treatments have been recommended. He also recommended keeping my tummy area as warm as possible at all times. He asked to have a look at my tongue first before he started anything - goodness knows what this could tell him ! Visit the British Accupuncture Council's website for registered accupuncturists in your area.

http://www.acupuncture.org.uk/

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Thursday, February 28th 2008, 7:40pm

Hi there

I hate the idea of needles of any type but I'd noticed that most ladies on here were having accup. or have had this, so I decided to ask my consultant about it today.

And she said that there have been lots of trials and all of them without a doubt show that IVF success is highest with Accup. My father is a qualified accu practitioner so I'll ask him more about it when he gets back from Oz. Apparently they don't know how it works but it does work.

I have no idea when you're supposed to start the treatment. UCH have their own accupuncturist we can consult if we're interested apparently. Maybe your clinic can give more advice.

Someone on here mentioned the herbs....these are not for the faint hearted. The smell of my father's herbs for my uncle who had asthma made me want to vomit but my uncle no longer needs an inhaler so it did the trick. I do agree that you should check with the British Accunpuncture Council though to make sure yours is registered etc...

The tongue thing is to see how your general health is. You can tell a lot about how your other organs are doing by the state of your tongue.


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Thursday, February 28th 2008, 8:16pm

The acupuncture is great even if its just to relax you. It prepares the body for the journey ahead. I started my treatment two weeks ago and am on 2ww in seven weeks. I will continue through the 2ww.

It is important to research though and find someone who has performed acupuncture for IVF/ICSI before. Mine has treated lots of women for this and even done a BBC program.

Would well recommend it and good luck.

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Thursday, February 28th 2008, 10:19pm

Starting half way

Hey ladies

I too was reading so many threads telling the benefits of acu, and I spoke to a lovely lady locally (some others on the site have used her).

She said that starting half way through my tx (had already started d/r) would not benefit the egg quality or anything and so unlikely to effect the actual process of ivf, to do that it would have to start well before d/r, about 4 weeks or so but that it would prob help with relaxation, stressing out and pma etc.

Decided to skip it this time, but would def have used it if hadn't started tx as she seemed really knowlegdeable and informed.

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Friday, February 29th 2008, 11:16am

My clinic (IVF Hammersmith) are so impressed with the research of IVF and accupunture that there are recommending we have it done. They even now do it at the clinic during treatment.

The only downfall is that it's done in conjunction with Harely Street! (£££££) I have yet to find out prices because that part of their website is being updated, I suppose I should ring them but I really don't have any money and my Mum bless her is already paying for our embies (pls God) to be frozen.

They recommend 4 sessions:

Day 8-10 to promote follie and lining growth
while in recovery at EC
day of embryo transfer
5 days after transfer to promote implantation

more info at www.92harleystreet.com

They also do a 3 month programme and a male programme for suboptimal sperm. They seem to be solely a fertility support company.

I have accupunture at my physiotherapist because I have an ongoing back and neck problem (was hit by a car when I was 7) She has refused to do it since I started ttc because there is a fine line between the right and wrong place for needles and she is not trained for fertility accu.

She told me about a chinese doc who gave his wife accu over a number of years, she mc several times. After many years of mc he found out that he was using accu points that cause spontaneuos mc!

So my advice would be to check te accu is specifically trained in IVF/fertility accu and not just a standard accu who thinks they can



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Friday, February 29th 2008, 12:55pm

sounds interesting, can anyone recommend someone in the manchester area. ive been thinking bout it too x
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Monday, March 3rd 2008, 7:36pm

Can you recommend anyone in Wilts/Hants area?

Hi
I have been looking into this as well as my first cycle of IVF has been abandoned in favour of IUI - the reason for this is that there were not enough follicles this time around. A friend of mine had acupuncture and conceived successfullly so I am certainly interested in exploring this in more detail....
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Tuesday, March 4th 2008, 1:42pm

I spoke to my clinic again and have arranged to have it done, they will book it after my first baseline scan. It's £240 for 4 sessions which I don't consider too bad it being via a Harley Street clinic and all that. My physio charges £40 a session mind you I do get ultra sound and a lovely massage as well as the acupunture there.

She says my body reacts well to acupunture as the needles glow red hot, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed the IVF acupunture is as effective

We already have to do our injections so what's a few more needles!



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Tuesday, March 4th 2008, 1:53pm

i had acupuncture for my last cycle

i started it in september and had tx in feb.

treatment wise it didn't help as i got a bfn and less follies and less eggs but i have to say im gona keep it up as it did help with the side effects of down reg and has made me better emotionally

also i no longer have pmt or bad period pains

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Monday, March 17th 2008, 7:39pm

When to have acupuncture?

Hi ladies,

Does anyone know when you are supposed to have acupuncture to increase your chances?

thanks!

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Monday, March 17th 2008, 8:22pm

RE: When to have acupuncture?

I don't know the answer to your question and i'm v interested to know myself - but there was an article in the London metro newspaper this morning which was all about acupuncture, reflexology etc etc increasing chances of conceiving so you might want to take a look at that.

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Monday, March 17th 2008, 8:35pm

There is a protocol which I think is called the German protocol which seems to be the best. Do some searches and it will come up.

That said I just had a few sessions before down reg and it worked! Who knows if it had an effect....




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Tuesday, March 18th 2008, 7:56am

Hi

I'm having E/C in April but been having acupuncture for the last 6 weeks and right through pregnancy. I have two sessions a week and at the moment it is aiming to produce healthy eggs. I really do believe in its benefits and mine has a great success rate with IVF/ICSI.

Its never too late.x

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Tuesday, March 18th 2008, 12:40pm

Hey,

I am going for once a week and have been since the week before DR. My guy lectures at a univercity on chinese medicine (seems to know his stuff), he's had many successes (maybe they would have been anyway?). The main thing is to give them your treatment plan so that they can work with the treatment. At the moment my guy is working with the DR and then when I start stimms will work on different energy sources for the stimms and I am going to see him just before EC and just after ET. My guy has told me more about IVF, vitamins, lifestyle etc than my doctor!

Good luck if you try it, if nothing else its quite relaxing and can help you to de-stress if you are a bit hyped up about all this - I have a million questions everyday!!!!!

Tracey x

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Tuesday, March 18th 2008, 1:02pm

Just butting in, I actually have an appointment this afternoon. I've been seeing my lady on and off, but as I am about to start D/R she suggests I go once a week from now on. I figure I can but try!
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Tuesday, March 18th 2008, 1:13pm

I think the general consensus is weekly during down-regging and stimms, and then there are variations on the German protocol, but essentially two, one just before and one just after EC/ET. The scientific paper that was published last month that showed a positive benefit of acupuncture tested acu 25 mins before ET and 25 mins after ET. However, within 24 hours either side of ET is good too. Some will do one session just before EC, but as I understand it, there are good needle points for stimulating blood flow to the uterus and that's best done close to ET.

Just make sure your acupuncturist is open to doing extra sessions and that will show you if they know about the German protocol and variants.

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Tuesday, March 18th 2008, 1:21pm

Im also doing once a week and have done since 2 weeks before DR...

If nothing else, i find it relaxing and i sleep loads when i'm there....

I dont think it can do any harm anyway....

Basically, i will continue to see mine through to Stimms...then im supposed to go in on day of EC and also when i get back from ET, in order to ensure blood supply to womb etc is good....


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