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Wednesday, December 11th 2013, 1:39pm

Thin lining / fluid on lining - am so upset

Hi Ladies,

I am on my 3rd FET and am so so worried and upset, the first 2 were cancelled due to fluid on lining and lining not being thick enough, it got up to about 7mm, then back to 5mm a few days later, I was on Progynova to start with. The fluid seemed to be a result of a reservoir in my c-section scar. When it was cancelled the 2nd time my Dr reccomended starting provera for 10 days to bring on a bleed, then a cervical dilatation, followed by back on the progynova & estradol patches for cycle 2. this all went ahead and they were pleased with the dilatation result as it drained the fluid, however, it is now day 13 on Progynova and the same thing is happening again - fluid on lining and the lining hovering around 7mm, I have asked them to please go ahead with it this time as they would aspirate the fluid prior to ET, we have 8 embies.

I am just really really worried this will keep happening, everything i have read pretty much says it's impossible to get pregnant with fluid on lining, and that it is a bit of a mystery as to why it is there, doesn't sound like an easy fix, in some threads even surrogacy is suggested.

i am so so upset, i think naively i assumed that with 8 embies and a previous successful ICSI (2nd go) we would end up with another pregnancy, and it is tearing me up now to think this might not be the case as I desperately want to give my DD a sibling. I didn't even think of the FETs being cancelled due to poor response

Has this happened to anyone else doing FET? what is the fluid and how do they fix it? is it because i had a c-section?

Would this still be happening if a fresh cycle? as far as i can remember there was no fluid on the ICSI cycles

Any tips on how to thicken the lining?


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Wednesday, December 11th 2013, 5:18pm

I'm so sorry, I have never heard of this before. Does your clinic have any advice or experience of it?

I hope someone more useful than , e pops along with advice soon x

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Wednesday, December 11th 2013, 11:27pm

I'm really sorry you are having such a time if it. My first two FETs were cancelled pre ET due to thin lining with fluid/ mucous the second time round. The third treatment worked and have my DD as a result. I'm afraidy clinic said these things just happen sometimes and I didn't really chNge my meds much other than extra hrt patches on cycle three.

Have your clinic offered any other suggestions? I had a hysteroscopy to rule out lining/ womb issues in between cycles two and three.

Sorry I'm not sure I've been much help but my story does show it can work even if you've had problems in the past. Good luck xxx
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Thursday, December 12th 2013, 7:56pm

If it helps I had a thin lining it didn't ever get more than 7mm in fact it was probably thinner than that but the clinic still went ahead with transfer they didn't seem to think it was an issue as long as it's triple stripe.

As for the fluid I am not sure of this but I'm sure it's something you can over come. I found the hrt didn't do much for my lining would they consider a natural cycle if this one doesn't go ahead?

So much time is invested in an fet it takes forever to get to et so I feel for you xxx
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Monday, December 1st 2014, 9:03pm

Thin lining - fluid on lining

Hi there -

I've just had my second cancelled FET due to thin lining (I didn't get above a 5.2mm reading this time). The twist with this attempt was there was fluid on the lining. I've never heard of this. I threw everything at this attempt to thicken the lining - progynova (pessaries 3x p/day), viagra (pessaries 3x p/day), estrogen patches (every other day), delestrogen (1 injection every two days), acupuncture, fertility yoga...The doctor said there wasn't much else they could do for me and suggested to next have a monitoring cycle to see if the lining did better naturally. If oddly it does they can convert the monitoring cycle to a transfer cycle. I've had a hysteroscopy which didn't provide any information on potential issues. My doctor said she might suggest to do it once again as she is tempted to see for herself if there are any adhesions (another doctor did the first hysteroscopy), but wasn't gung-ho on this as she said she'd probably not see anything different.This is obviously heartbreaking and terrifying. I'm kind of left with no promising next steps. I have five lovely embryos remaining, but they'd be unlikely to survive even if I got my lining up to it's highest recording of 7mm last year. I guess surrogacy is the next step? I really don't know. Does anyone have experience with any of this?

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Monday, December 1st 2014, 11:50pm

Hi mariafrances,

Did you have the natural cycle in the end? How did that go, any better?

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Tuesday, December 2nd 2014, 9:29am

Hi Rianon, Not yet. I will give it a go I suppose in January. My hopes are pretty non-existent at the moment. It's not just the fluid that was there, the lining gets to be a good quality with a triple line but then thins. I have no idea why this is happening and not sure if anyone has an answer. It's very hard. Good luck to you!

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Tuesday, December 2nd 2014, 10:11am

Hello

I'm afraid I don't know anything about linings and why they might thin, but I'm really sorry you are going through this and are so upset.

Have you tried acupuncture at all? Might help.

Wishing you much luck for your next try

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Tuesday, December 2nd 2014, 10:21am

Thanks Jenny!

I've had acupuncture once a week for the past two years and twice a week when I was in a medicated cycle. I've also done Chinese herbs. Nothing seems to be helping me unfortunately.

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Monday, January 5th 2015, 5:13pm

Hi Ladies! Thanks so much for your responses! I didn't expect any and just checked back to see you had written. Thank you so much. It's great to hear that others have gone through something similar and gone on to have some good results. What worries me is that I have never ever gotten a BFP. It just seems pregnancy is absolutely impossible for me - it's like I'm immune to it. I think perhaps on top of the thin lining, I have issues with high Natural Killer cells that is a contributing factor? I really don't know. The doctor said there was "nothing more she could do for me" and then saw my face and changed that to "almost nothing" and said I could do a monitoring cycle and if things changed with the lining they could convert the monitoring cycle into an FET. It's really not a lot to go on and devastating really. I wish you all the best of luck in 2015!

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Sunday, January 3rd 2016, 7:29pm

Hi Ladies! Thanks so much for your responses! I didn't expect any and just checked back to see you had written. Thank you so much. It's great to hear that others have gone through something similar and gone on to have some good results. What worries me is that I have never ever gotten a BFP. It just seems pregnancy is absolutely impossible for me - it's like I'm immune to it. I think perhaps on top of the thin lining, I have issues with high Natural Killer cells that is a contributing factor? I really don't know. The doctor said there was "nothing more she could do for me" and then saw my face and changed that to "almost nothing" and said I could do a monitoring cycle and if things changed with the lining they could convert the monitoring cycle into an FET. It's really not a lot to go on and devastating really. I wish you all the best of luck in 2015!
Hi mariafrancis,
I was just wondering how you have gotten on since you last posted. I've suffered from the same issue with thin lining and fluid on my scans too. It's so frustrating.
We've just had our 4 th cycle cancelled because of this.max I've got to is 6.6 but quickly fell away and dropped to 2.2 on that cycle.
Would love to see how you've progressed since your last post.
Also I've got several protocols I've been recommended to try, hopefully one of which will work.
Using tamoxifen for longer and later in my cycle, being one. Plus adding estrace orally and vaginally, as well as patches.
Plus viagra suppositories possibly with a stems drug if the viagra isn't effective alone.
Would love to compare notes with you.
Thanks in advance
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