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Saturday, May 11th 2013, 8:19pm

Initial fertility clinic appointment......gutted

Hi all,

It's been a couple of days since our initial fertility clinic appointment, we needed a couple of days to recover. Very hard emotionally.
This was a nurse led clinic in which I had to get an ultrasound and histories take. We were also to get an indication of what the process would involve and generally what treatment may be offered.
First off my ultrasound was done, she asked about my periods etc. I have irregular periods but this one is a killer because I am on cycle day 40 now!! She scanned me and pointed out all these fuzzy outlines, but she did say I have a lovely 2.5cm mature follicle, so in her opinion I was just about to ovulate. So based on this, looks like my period is just a really long one this time. I never get this long into a cycle.
Then we went to another room and she started taking our histories, height weight etc and general background related to how we got referred.
My side was fine. She asked my OH about his first 2 SA's and said that he will need to do a third, but this time it's the "swim up test" and a more detailed analysis. If the results of this third test come back as showing some sperm, he will need to do a fourth for confirmation, and then we would be offered ICSI at Glasgow royal infirmary. Which is good. However, if the results still shows no sperm, our option is....... Donor sperm. That's it.

We are gutted to say the least. I just totally broke down.
Donor is the last resort, unfortunately it is also half of our options. The nurse obviously has to tell us this so we don't get our consultant appointment and go in totally blind, so I can see why she told us there and then. Also it appears that we have had a lot of the testing / scans done by our GP rather than through the clinic so it means we have fast tracked and got results for a lot of stuff the clinic would normally have done. This means there was little extra testing the nurse could suggest at this stage, so perhaps she is reading between the lines a little bit.

Something that neither of us can understand though, if this swim up test shows no sperm present, how do they know there's none present in my OH? Just because the sample had none, doesn't mean he has none in him, it could mean its not getting out, or it's tucked away maybe?? I don't know, I am clutching at straws here but still. He has had an ultrasound but we were not given any results for this, yet. So my point is, I find it a bit of a leap to go straight to donor if the swim up sperm test shows bad news, is surgical retrieval not an option if the swim up test is bad? Or is it possible that a bad swim up test along with myOHs bloodwork make it an impossibility? I am not specifically asking anyone if they have the answers here, just raising the points of confusion we have.

We had to both take emergency leave from work those days because we just could not believe what we were hearing. I am especially concerned what effect this has on my OH.

I am on cd 40 now and guess what, I am bleeding today!! So, was I about to ovulate like the ultrasound indicated, or what?? Totally confused and gutted.
Miss Pooh
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Saturday, May 11th 2013, 8:29pm

I know very little about male factor issues but what I do know is that the provision for fertility treatment on the NHS is only a fraction of what exists!
I would definitely consult a private clinic as well with your results before accepting donor sperm.
Sorry I can't help with the ovulation question.. not sure.
Infertility is horrible, no two ways about it, but there are plenty of people on here who understand. You might have to fight your corner though, I certainly would not be pregnant now if we hadn't!
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Saturday, May 11th 2013, 8:37pm

Thanks RB, yes it's a horrible thing for anyone to go through. I definitely will be fighting our corner, I already feel like I know stuff the doctors should know, we have also had an endocrinologist referral where we had to refuse Testosterone therapy for my OH because it stops the body producing sperm!! Treatment actually working against what we are trying to achieve.
I read an article from 2010 that stated the NHS sperm donor list was down to 26 in Scotland........26!!!! I find that totally unbelievable. We were actually told by the nurse that if we go down the donor route we have to pay for the donor sperm itself. nHS offer the IUI and the drug treatment for me, but will not fund the sperm. I could not believe it.
Miss Pooh
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4th-6th DIUI (stim)- :BFN:
1st DICSI cycle- 12 eggs,8 fertilised, 3 frozen, no transfer due to egg collection infection and fever.

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Saturday, May 11th 2013, 9:17pm

Hi Hun

My situation is slightly different but still male factor. Just wanted to offer a bit of support cause I remember the feeling when they told us dh had no sperm coming out. I thought my world was coming crashing in. Now we have two beautiful boys and they are both biologically my dh's. so anything is possible Hun just don't give up.xxxx

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Saturday, May 11th 2013, 10:20pm

Thanks Gemma, I appreciate that. It is good to hear success stories and while we are hopefully that ICSI will be the way forward for us, we have to prepare ourselves for the donor route too, just in case.
Miss Pooh
Treatment - GRI
1st-3rd DIUI - :BFN:
4th-6th DIUI (stim)- :BFN:
1st DICSI cycle- 12 eggs,8 fertilised, 3 frozen, no transfer due to egg collection infection and fever.

One day at a time ......
starsmile

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