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Tuesday, August 14th 2012, 1:25pm

Am I over feeding lo?

Just been to get lo weighed and she's now 14lb 1oz, she's 15 weeks (9 weeks corrected) I told hv that everyone mentions how heavy and solid lo is and she asked how much she drinks. She has upto 7oz every 3 hrs during the day but sleeps through the night so she has 5 bottles a day. Hv said she should be going 4 hrs between bottles now and I need to gradually increase time between bottles. I've only ever feed on demand so im only feeding every 3hrs coz lo wants feeding. Should I carry on feeding on demand or do as hv says? I feel like im over feeding her now :( xxx
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Tuesday, August 14th 2012, 3:32pm

Kat I was always told to feed as and when they wanted and some how they work there selves into a routine. Do you give her water also? Sometimes they can just be a little thirsty, if Zachary is quite early for a feed but crying his hungry cry then I try him with a bit of water, sometimes it does the trick other times it doesn't then I definetly no he's hungry!!

I seem to be having the opposite problem, really worried Zachary is underweight as every baby around his age (some baby's younger even!!) Weigh more than him!!
He weighed 13'2 when I got him weighed a few weeks ago, and just now weighed him myself, holding him on the scales and working out the difference!! ;) and he still only weighs 13'2 :(
He has been poorly, and has really gone off his milk and barely drinks 2/3oz at some feeds :(
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Tuesday, August 14th 2012, 6:43pm

Kat - As long as your LO is getting enough milk I don't see why you shoul making her go 4 hours, if you are happy feeding her 3 hourly I would stick with it. Is she following the centile line? My DS as and still is always much bigger than his friends as he followed the 97th centile!

I am having weight worries too! At our 6 week check I was advised to get Imogen weighed weekly as she had dropped a centile. I had her weighed today and the HV is happy for me to get her weighed fortnightly and is not concerned at all. However my parents think maybe there is something wrong with my milk and I should giver formula. This really upsets me as its been hard BF exclusively with a 2 year old to look after too.I almost feel quite alone about the feeding and as if its only DH and I that think I should stick at it. I will definitely be going to BF group this week to chat to other mums who can understand!


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Tuesday, August 14th 2012, 8:15pm

Thanks Cheenab and Jasper, yeah lily is following the centile line qhich made me think we were doing ok, im not sure if the hv took into account sge was 6 weeks prem as she wasnt my normal hv, she didnt even put her weight on the chart in the red book.
Cheenab, im sure ds will catch up once he's feeling 100%
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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 6:44am

Jasper if you are happy to stick with it then do. If the HV was that worried then she would have suggested bottle feeding. You've done a great job so far and I'm sure it will get easier. Imogen is getting so many benefits from your milk and I'm sure that my HV told me that BF babies often dip on the centile line at some point.

I haven't weighed DS for a while so may today. He has his next set of injections on Friday which unfortunately clashes with a weaning class I was going to go to. I have plenty of time to go to another though.

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Wednesday, August 15th 2012, 11:20pm

Jasper if you are happy to stick with it then do. If the HV was that worried then she would have suggested bottle feeding. You've done a great job so far and I'm sure it will get easier. Imogen is getting so many benefits from your milk and I'm sure that my HV told me that BF babies often dip on the centile line at some point.


CT is right you know! My girls didn't put on as much as would have been liked and at about the same age as Imogen DD1 was also being weighed weekly because of it. Not all babies pile it on, it doesn't mean anything is wrong with your milk or that your DD should be put on formula. If you are happy to continue BF, your DD is happy and healthy and your HV has no concerns then go with it. Reassure your parents you are doing the right thing by getting her weighed when told to and that your HV knows far more about these things than they do so you'll be taking his/her advice.

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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 8:10am

Thanks Polly and CT. Why is our world so obsessed with weight??!!! I am going to BF group again todays so will have a little moan with the girls there! ::P


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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 5:15pm

Sorry to bring up the subject of farty babies again :O but Imogen is really suffering. It feels like she has been screaming all day until she did the loudest fart in Morrisons this afternoon!!! Even DS looked shocked! Does anyone know if Infacol is for ind at both ends or should I try something else?

I wonder how many of the other shoppers thought it was me as you would never think such a small thing could make so much noise or smell!!! :yuk:


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Thursday, August 16th 2012, 8:23pm

Jasper, my lo was always farty and was so loud people would look at me!! I tried infacol and dentinox but found the best thing for bottom burps was gripe water. Luckily lily seems to have grown out of it now so hopefully Imogen will soon xxx

I think Lily's getting her first tooth, there's a white bit just to the right on her bottom gum line :thumbsup: xxx
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Friday, August 17th 2012, 8:10am

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Jasper - I used infacol for a few days as Olly refused to part with the last wee bit of wind he had, he's also a farty baby but oh my the farts were 10 times louder when he takes infacol, the first few were so loud i was convinced he had a poo but it really seemed to settle him, infacol says its's for colic, wind and griping pain, i don't use it all the time now becuase i feel were getting the hang of winding but for us it def worked at both ends, the farts are loud but if it settles baby i don't care.

Does anyone else go through a time of day when baby seems to cry for no reason? Ours ranges from 6pm - 10pm, thankfully not the full 4hrs but at least 2hrs out the 4hrs are just a nighmare and nothing seems to settle him, he will settle for maybe 10min in my arms then start to scream for no apparent reason and refuses to sleep or be put down in his moses basket. It's exhausting. Only good thing is he's so tired by his 10pm feed that he's changed/fed/winded and in bed for 10.30pm and sleeps until 3am. Any suggestions on what's wrong or how to get round it?

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Sasha, sounds abit like colic, is it most days this happens? Xxx
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Kat13 - it's happened every day for the past week and a bit at the same time most nights

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Friday, August 17th 2012, 11:43am

Hi Sasha,
It does sound like colic to me also, my sisters little girl had it and she used to cry for what seemed like no reason every evening around the same time, hope it eases up for you soon xxx
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Friday, August 17th 2012, 1:02pm

Hi all!
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Jasper I wanted to say please don't let anyone tell you your baby isn't getting enough from you. As long as there is healthy weight gain and lots of wet/soiled nappies you have enough milk! Sorry I had my MIL tell me I was starving the babies which made me cry and stressed me out so much that I think since then it has actually affected my milk and it has been dropping every time I stress since. So don't let it get to you, you're doing a fab job!

Sasha it does sound like colic, I was told to hold DS across my forearm with him face down (facing the floor) as it provides pressure on his tum and can relieve the discomfort. It worked 90% of the time, the other times I'd just sit there and sob with him ;( his colicy crying stopped at 3months, then it changed to teething crying and nothing but biting on a finger helps that!

As for the general fartiness of our babies, wowee! For such small people they have a lot of wind! I kept telling the babies I was going to take them to Weymouth to help Team GB in the sailing!! But just wait til you start solids, the smell, eek broccoli!! It's lucky it's been warm as we've had windows open and lots of ventilation!!

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Saturday, August 18th 2012, 7:56am

Morning girls

Is anyone else using infacol? I do think it's really good for bringing up wind and also coming out the other end but i feel i get a lot of reflux with it has anyone else noticed this? We haven't really had that problem but i got covered in sick at 3am this morning, a bit of sick i can cope with but when my pjs are soaked to the skin it's not fun trying to find a clean pair in the dark lol.

Leaving my baby for the first time today as we have a wedding to go to not looking forward to it.

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Saturday, August 18th 2012, 8:22am

Sasha, we used infacol to start with, there's another one called dentinox that does the same, they sell it in all the supermarkets. We went with gripe water in the end once lo reached a month old as it can't be used before then. My lo suffers with reflux so know what you mean about the pj situation, its horrible isnt it. Hope you enjoy the wedding, its hard leaving them but it also does you good to have some adult time xxx
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Saturday, August 18th 2012, 8:55am

Kat - thanks, is gripe water safe to use and is there a particular make to use? Should i run it past my health visitor first? And do you get reflux with it? Sorry so many questions

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Saturday, August 18th 2012, 10:23am

Sasha, I use Woodwards gripe water, I get it in morrisons. There are no know side affects with that one as it uses natural stuff I think. Other makes like boots have side affects listed on the bottle. I found it helped with reflux as lo wasnt straining so hard to get rid of wind. I used it for 2 months and dont use anything now. You can use it upto 6 times a day xxx
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Sunday, August 19th 2012, 11:25am

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Kat - thanks my mum is going to get it for me today, i use sma milk and have found they do a comfort milk which is suppose to help with colic so going to give that a go to, anything is worth a try :)

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Sunday, August 19th 2012, 11:49am

Hope the gripe water helps. We also tried the comfort milk but found we had to get new teats for the bottles as it was too thick. Hopefully you wont need to xxx
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Sunday, August 19th 2012, 12:04pm

i purchased vari flow teats to as i new it would prob be thicker, we had also got reflux milk at the start and discovered the teats were too small and gave up, just had a feed there and the comfort milk came out fine with the vari flow teats so will see how we get on.

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Wednesday, August 22nd 2012, 5:22pm

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I'll apologise for this long post in advance.

Ok so for two weeks now Olly has been pretty unbearable between 6 -10 pm but mostly between 8 -10 pm where he just sceams and screams and nothing seems to calm him, he gets changed, fed and winded at 10pm and is down sleeping for 10.30 pm and that is usually him until 3am, hes then changed, fed and winded and down to sleep about 3.40 am and that's him until about 7am.
During the day he is great (touch wood) rarely cries and certainly doesn't scream. So we thought 2 weeks ago it might be colic so i started using infacol, yes it works great at getting him to burp but i found he was quite sicky but i could cope with that as long as he didn't have trapped wind however the screaming continued.
So i had heard that SMA do a stay down comfort milk that can help so on Sunday i started using that and continued with the infacol, now between 8-10pm are still pretty bad but now it's a combination of crying and screaming however we have noticed that Olly now drools and when given the infacol it's more projectile vomit and not just a wee bit of sick.
Also after the 3am feed although he is sleeping he wriggles about, grunts (it's so loud it keeps us up) and just seems very unsettled.
Today a friend said it sounded more like reflux and not colic so i started doing a bit of research and have found he has loads of symptoms for reflux such has hiccups, sneezing, vomit, nasal problems at night, the wriggling about, grunting, drooling etc.
So what could it be?
Should i stop the infacol and see if the milk alone helps or does he have a touch of colic and stopping the infacol could make things worse?
Does he have reflux?
Or are we chopping and changing too much and being impatient?

My friends sister in law was given infant gaviscon for reflux, if it is reflux does anyone know if it can be given with stay down milk? A lot of mixed reviews online.

Sorry for the long post just so confused and lack of sleep doesn't help x
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Wednesday, August 22nd 2012, 5:58pm

It does sound alot like reflux sasha.
Our little one has infant gaviscon, he's been having it since about 7weeks!! We've got the dose right down now though so he only has it with one bottle, but it helped him an awful lot!! He used to scream like he was in pain and nothing we could do would help!!
I think you can only get it on prescription for baby's though so have a word with your doctor hun :) xx
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COLIC V FELUX

I'll apologise for this long post in advance.

Ok so for two weeks now Olly has been pretty unbearable between 6 -10 pm but mostly between 8 -10 pm where he just sceams and screams and nothing seems to calm him, he gets changed, fed and winded at 10pm and is down sleeping for 10.30 pm and that is usually him until 3am, hes then changed, fed and winded and down to sleep about 3.40 am and that's him until about 7am.
During the day he is great (touch wood) rarely cries and certainly doesn't scream. So we thought 2 weeks ago it might be colic so i started using infacol, yes it works great at getting him to burp but i found he was quite sicky but i could cope with that as long as he didn't have trapped wind however the screaming continued.
So i had heard that SMA do a stay down comfort milk that can help so on Sunday i started using that and continued with the infacol, now between 8-10pm are still pretty bad but now it's a combination of crying and screaming however we have noticed that Olly now drools and when given the infacol it's more projectile vomit and not just a wee bit of sick.
Also after the 3am feed although he is sleeping he wriggles about, grunts (it's so loud it keeps us up) and just seems very unsettled.
Today a friend said it sounded more like reflux and not colic so i started doing a bit of research and have found he has loads of symptoms for reflux such has hiccups, sneezing, vomit, nasal problems at night, the wriggling about, grunting, drooling etc.
So what could it be?
Should i stop the infacol and see if the milk alone helps or does he have a touch of colic and stopping the infacol could make things worse?
Does he have reflux?
Or are we chopping and changing too much and being impatient?

My friends sister in law was given infant gaviscon for reflux, if it is reflux does anyone know if it can be given with stay down milk? A lot of mixed reviews online.

Sorry for the long post just so confused and lack of sleep doesn't help x
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Thanks Cheenab

Did it make your wee one constipated? That's a concern i have about gaviscon but the comfort milk is supposed to help with that but mixed reviews if u can use gavison with comfort milk?

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I used gaviscon with comfort milk up until a couple of weeks ago when i changed back to the stage 1 and it was fine, it does make it thicker though so we had to go out and buy vari flow teats, but it didn't make him constipated hun xx
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 9:31am

Thanks Cheenab

Had 2 hours durng the night of the wee man just constantly bringing up water which i think is another sign of reflux?

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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 10:07am

Sasha, my lo has reflux aswell. If you see your gp they will prescribe gaviscon for lo. My lo sometimes gets constipated with the gaviscon but I give her some cooled boiled water and she's soon back to normal. We started on sma and switched to cow and gate which helped a little xxx
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Thursday, August 23rd 2012, 11:47am

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kat, sasha sorry to hear about your LOs having reflux, it must be horrible :( Our LO has been getting windier the past few days, and has had a few evenings when she has been crying a lot for no obvious reason, so we are thinking of starting her on infacol to see if that makes any difference - it has only been 3 or 4 times so far though, so may not be related to digestion!

We got some good news yesterday - we had the follow-up appointment with the consultant paediatrician, after LOs stay on the SCBU after birth, and apparently she is "handling like a normal baby" :) She still needs one more check at 9 months, but he seemed happy that she is developing normally and has made a full recovery. The next check would be the same as everyone has with the health visitor at 9 months, so he said if that appointment happens to come through first, and everything is ok, then we can cancel the hospital appointment :) We had thought she was fine, but it is reassuring to have the consultant confirm it. Being back at the hospital and seeing other babies going in and out, brings home just how lucky we have been, it could so easily have gone the other way. I am constantly comparing her to the other babies at our weekly group, comparing their behaviours and development - and she looks great next to them :)

I finally went clothes shopping on my own with LO yesterday - at last I have some decent nursing tops, so I can go out without feeling really scruffy now! I had been making do with a couple of old vests I could pull down to feed her, or an old denim shirt I could unbutton!! Also ordered some new nursing bras - I found this site http://www.nursingbra-shop.co.uk/, seem to have a really good range and easily searchable by size!

Hope you are all doing well - we're off out for a walk now, so glad it has cooled down a little!!
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Hi hun,

Sasha - It sounds really similar to what my DS was like for months from about 2 weeks old :( I thought it was colic and used infacol which helped a bit but not dramatically. Because he wasnt being sick i didn;t think it was reflux but in hindsight talking to some experts all his symptoms pointed towards that he had 'silent reflux' - so if i were you i wpould head to the doctors, make a fuss, tell them the symptoms how awful it is for your baby (and you) and try the gaviscon...it might be just what your LO needs and solve it all for you. I wish i had done this, but just didn't realise. My DS is 2 now but it went on for ages and ages, so well worth a trip to the docs and possible medication. Also you can do other things to help, like tilt their cot/crib/pram etc so their head is slightl;y raised...this helps with the acid not coming up so high.

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Thanks girls

Went to the doc today and got the gaviscon, i use sma comfort milk and with the gavison added it's really thick and lumpy, it does say not to use with thicker milk but think it's a matter of opinion i have read good and bad about using it with comfort milk, will stick with it for a few days and maybe switch back to the normal sma. Doc also suggested maybe trying different formula but to try the infacol first.

Caraz - i used infacol i thought it was great for bringing up wind but i also felt a lot of milk came back up to, i no lots of people use it and don't have this problem so no harm giving it a go, it's very safe and smells good :)

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Sasha, you can get milk prescribed from the doctor for reflux too....did the GP not suggest this, or did they just want to see how the gaviscon goes first?


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Friday, August 24th 2012, 10:10pm

We are having some really unsettled evenings too. DH is currently out in the car taking Imogen for a drive as a last resort to get her to sleep. It's not a habit we want to get in to but we know we will be up at 6am with a lively toddler so you do what you have to I suppose. I have been putting it down to either being overtired or wind and just accepting it, should I be doing anything else??? Could it be colic or reflux, I don't really know anything about either of these but they are being mentioned alot. I feel quite stressed about it and like I am failing in some way. ;(



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Hi girls thought i would come and join you seeing asDylan is 10 days today and could do with some support as a first time mum not sure what is what and if i am doing things right, why dont thy come with a manual???

I dont want to really relive my birth as it is somthing i would rather forget, but it was very traumatic for both of us and Dylan ended up with an infection as they left me go three days after my waters broke, a black a eye, severe bruising to his head and neck and ended up in SCBU for 8 days with feeding problems. I wanted to breast feed him but was unable too due o his neck and head so i expressed and tgey gave him this via a nasal tube. Anyway we are home now and he seems a lot better and his neck and head dont seem to be any problems at the moment. I am still expressing and bottle feeding but also trying to breast feed him. I just cant seem to get him to latch on, he routes and opens his mouth but when he gets my nipple in his mouth he seems to freak out and start to cry, i have managed to get him latched twice but at is it. I am starting to find it all a bit too juch with the expressing and bottle feeding especialy at night and would like to just breast feed. I have also noticed that he can be a bit strange with his bottle feeding, sometimes he will take a full 90mls, another time he will only take 40mls and then take another 40 mls half an hour later and feeds very three to four hours. Is rhis normal???

Sorry for the long post but it is starting to worry me, or is it too early for him to have a routine and i should give him time???
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Saturday, August 25th 2012, 1:39am

Hi Taffy
Just read your post and thought I could help in some way. Firstly sorry to hear about your tramatic birth, thankfully it's all over now and your both well :) Yep it's too early for a routine at only 10 days old. I bf my LO and bfed babies just feed on demand. Breast milk doesn't fill up babies as much as formula hence the reason they need to feed more often esp at such an early (and cute ;) ) age. Regarding latching on is there any support for you with a midwife or HV? I was very unsure too starting off and had a great support from the hospital (24 hour help line) Have you checked out if this is available to you? Bfing is very new to both you and your LO and it can take time and patience I'm afraid. My sis LO wouldn't feed from her at all when she latched on she would just cry and hit out at my sis so she expressed and fed her milk from a bottle. For some reason her LO didn't like the breast? Each baby is different although with some support and help I'm sure you can get LO latching on :)
I hope thats some help to you and please please remember babies are babies for such a short time, I know that this is hard to believe when your sleep deprived but time goes by so quickly. Sleep when your LO sleeps don't mind the house or housework and make sure you eat and look after yourself well.
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Saturday, August 25th 2012, 7:38am

Hi Taffy, what a beautiful boy Dylan is! To back up what Jodie said my LO is BF and doesn't really have a routine at 3 months. We have patterns but nothing set in stone. His feeds also vary in length depending on whether he is really hungry or just wanting a top up for comfort.

As for the latching can you speak to your MW? I know that there are feeding specialists in our area so you may have someone near you.

Jasper I hope you managed to get DD to sleep. I think there was something in the air last night as I couldn't get DS down until 10.30 and only managed after lots of tears (his and mine). However he had his longest night sleep and went through til 6.30 this morning : D

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Saturday, August 25th 2012, 8:14am

Sorry to hear you had an evening like mine CT but it's nice to know I am not alone!!! She finally settled at 11 and slept til 5, by the time she was settling after a feed it was 5.45 an DS was awake! I am sooo tired! :yawning:

Taffy , I echo what the others have said about BF. I take each day as it comes and plan roughly when I think I will need to feed DD depending on what time our day starts and what we have planned for the day. Some babies aren't great at mixed feeding because of the difference in shape between the bottle an your breast. Definitely speak to your MW as they will be able to help.xx


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thanks girls for your replies they were all hlpful it is good to know that i am not doing anything wrong. i had support with breast feeding on SCBU and they showed me what i should be doing to latch him on and said thast i hjust need to keep trying. i have spoken to HV and she put me in touch with the breast feedind specialist, i have spoken to her on the phone and she gave me loads of tips to try and said that she could come and see me on wednesday if i need her. we had a go this morning, he opens his mouth to loatch on and it seems that he just does not know what to do with it when it is in his mouth, i have squirted milk from it but this has not helped and i have also tried using a nipp;e sheild. i wiil havea chat with the bf specialist on wennesday. jodie did your sis continue to express and bottle feed or did she go onto formula? Jasper i am starting to think that he prefers bottle and trying both is not helping, it seems to stress him out so i dont know if i will continue trying and just use the bottle so that he is happy.

i had problems with setttling him last night i fed him and then settled him but he cried for over an hour, in thr rnd i walked him downstairs and he burped and then went off to sleep ............why did i not think that lol!!!! got MW coming again to check my c-section scar to see if it is healing as i have strep B, so will have a chat with her today.
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Taffcaz - sorry can't help you with the breastfeeding as i never managed, by baby likes his bottles at room temp and i make them up for the night feeds to save any hassle at 3am.

Jasper - my baby started the screaming 2 and a half weeks ago, we started with screaming from 6pm - 10pm, we thought it was colic so started him on infacol, we then got screaming from 8-10pm but there was def a mixture of something causing him to not settle and being over tired, now we are on comfort milk and infant gaviscon, last night at 8pm he was about to start screaming so i just started singing to him, talking to him, playing with toys in front of his face, sitting him on my knee to look at the light, he still cried on and off but wasn't screaming, a bath also works for some reason he now loves it when 2 weeks ago he hated it, swaddling him works from time to time as he loves to be warm, it's hard work and you have two to look after.

Infant gavison seems to be working great already, fed at 10pm sleeping for 10.30pm and didn't get up until 3.45am then sleeping again for 4.30am and back up at 7.30am so can't complain, usually he makes loads of noise after the early feed and wriggles about but there was silence last night, bliss :)

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Hi Taffy
My sis expressed and gave this to her LO til she was 12 weeks then after the 12 week mark she introduced formula and gave her both the expressed milk and formula. We all thought it was a little strange but there was no way her LO would let the nipple in her mouth??? It's only til I had a baby that I realised how headstrong babies can be lol!!
I was the same with the burping, my LO would wake in the night I'd BF him he'd feed and fall asleep without getting any wind up. Some nights I was so tired I'd end up falling asleep whilst feeding him other nights I'd have to wind him whilst he was asleep trying not to wake him up :S It's all trial and error and finding your own way. You can get all the advice in the world but only you know your baby what he likes and dislikes etc. Sounds to me like your doing great :thumbsup:
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Saturday, August 25th 2012, 10:08pm

I spoke to MW today she said it seems like he has nipple confusion but said o continue trying and aso sing a nipple sheild so i will have another go tomorrow. I ave been topping hs milk up with aptamil and using his when we go out. I will carry on and see how it goes, i dont want to give up yet. Thanks for your support it as been realy gelpful, and at least i know i am not the only one who as had this prblem.
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Sunday, August 26th 2012, 8:36am

Glad the MW was helpful Taffycaz. Keep trying and I am sure your LO will get the hang of it.

We had another unsettled evening! She went to sleep at 7.30 which was great but woke an hour later and screamed on and off til 11pm. I think it was wind related as she was very windy and smelly!!! :yuk: I picked up some gripe water so my give that a try tonight.

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Jasper - i had the opposite problem last night Olly was constipated it was heartbreaking hearing him try and push out a poo and sream while trying to do it, ended up having a wee cry with him ;(

So this morning gave him a wee drop of infacol, i didn't think i could handle projectile vomit at every feed but it's much better than a baby in pain, within an hour of giving him the infacol we had a nice big poo :thumbsup: why didn't i think of that last night.

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Well, I didn't catch up on any sleep yesterday but I did today until someone rang the doorbell!!! We tried gripe water last night and the screaming was only half an hour rather than the usual couple of hours! Going to try it again tonight. I am hoping that she starts to settle in the evenings soon as DH and I are getting very little time to relax together and the tiredness is getting to us both :-(

Sasha, I found that Infacol made DS projecile vomit too, I guess it just doesn't agree with some babies.

Can I ask how much sleep all of your LO's have, have they developed any sort of routine yet? Imogen still sleeps loads in the day and I know that at some point this will impact on her night time sleep. I remember with DS I had to make sure he didn't sleep after 5pm for a while, then 4pm and now it's 3pm to ensure he is tired for 7pm.


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Hi all!
Jasper I've only just started crying it out/implementing routine. I feel ready that if breastfeeding stops that I'm ok with it, don't want it to but realistically I don't think my supply can hold out and fit a routine. But if I was bottlefeeding I would have whipped them into a routine ages ago! I really think (now and in hindsight!) that 6months is late, but maybe around 3-4months making sure they are getting into a routine. I can see now that was when they needed some structure, where as now it's taking a while to get them sorted out because they're quite accustomed to doing their own thing!! Babies huh?!

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Jasper - it depends what you mean about routine, i'm bottle feeding and have had a resonabe routine for a couple of weeks now, i feed at 7am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm then between 8 -10pm he's quite unsettled although the last few nights haven't been too bad so we have started bathing at 9.15pm then pjs and sleeping bag on and fed at 10pm then put to bed between 10.30/11pm. I then just leave him to sleep and see when he wakes which over the last week or so has been between 3.30 -5.00am. He only cat naps during the day and we have had days where he doesn't seem to sleep at all, if he doesn't get a nap after the 7am and 3pm feed by 6pm he is a nighmare to deal with. When he varies from these times i just play catch up either feeding 15 - 30 min early or late to get back onto our times.
Last night he wasn't unsettled between 8-10pm we didn't bath because we were both shattered and he was asleep, we woke him at 10pm and took me until 12.30pm to get him to sleep he then woke at 3.30am for a feed so ill be trying to keep him up between 8-10pm and bathing, 2hrs of being a bit unsettled is better than 2 1/2 hrs attempting to get him to sleep.

When you have a constipated baby how much water should you give them? I put an ounce in a bottle but he didn't take it all but it did seem to do the trick, also how often should you give it throughout the day?

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Hi Jasper, my LO tends to have 3 or 4 naps in the day. Usually one in the morning, another at lunchtime and one in the afternoon. They vary in length from 15 minutes to an hour but he'll happily sleep longer if we're out or in the car. We don't have a set routine as I work around his feeds but I always do bath at 7pm and try to get him in bed and asleep at 9.30. He is just xfingers starting to sleep through the night regularly.

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Jasper my LO tends to have 3 naps a day, usually cat naps!! 30mins!! But every night he is in bed for 9pm and usually doesn't wake till 7-8am but the past few nights he's been waking at 5 because of his teeth :(
Its weird because at night I can just put him down and he will sleep fine, but in the day he needs rocking/blanket or dummy!! He rarely dozes off on his own unless he's in the car!!
Sasha I usually make up 4oz of water, he rarely drinks it all but it's there when he needs it, I usually give him some a couple of hrs after/before his feed but he never takes more than an ounce at a time!!!

Does anyone have any magical teething remedies?!!
My little man is suffering so much :( we've got bonjela, granules and teething toys!! But it doesn't seem to help, and he keeps going off his milk :(
His fingers are constantly in his mouth, keeps making himself sick :(
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hi Jasper - we don't have much of a routine as yet, still feeding on demand, but what we have started doing (3 or 4 weeks ago I think) is giving her the formula feed at 10-10.30 at night (BF the rest of the time), and that will usually do her until 3.30am. She has gone as late as 4.30 a couple of times, but not for a week or so! She drops off again by 4, and is awake again about 5.30-6 for another feed, and then thinks it is playtime! She lies in her cot, wide-eyed, smiley and talking to herself while I'm desparately trying to get back to sleep. Daytime there is no routine really, sometimes she naps, sometimes not. Most often it is morning (about 9 or 10ish) and then sometimes late afternoon. The past week or two she has begun sleeping in the evening, so we have tried putting her down upstairs a couple of times, but she won't settle, so we are just leaving her in the moses basket in the living room with us for now (or we cuddle her while she sleeps). I still think she is a little young for proper routines, the feeding varies too much from day to day. The evening routine works reasonably well though, the main problem is if she decides she wants a feed anytime after 8pm means she won't take all her FF last thing - so she wakes earlier in the night. I need to feed her around 7.30pm I think to time it right.

She's just had her first immunizations, screamed at both of them but calmed down very quickly - just waiting now to see if she has a sleepy or grizzly reaction!

taffy - hope things are getting easier, you had a rough start so it will take time for things to settle down. Hopefully the BF counsellor can help. I'd only suggest keep expressing if you can - it really helped me when I couldn't feed from one side for a while (too painful), as it kept the supply up ready for when I could feed from that side again. Niamh sometimes has crying fits at me, looking like she wants to latch then pulling away screaming - I thought it might be because we had combined bottle and breast (from a few days in the SCBU, then feeding expressed milk in a bottle). She has settled a lot better now, it was between about 3 weeks and 6 weeks she was fighting a lot - she's 8 weeks now and mostly fine. The only thing I found worked even slightly was just taking her away from the breast for a few minutes, distracting her, jiggling her etc, then trying again, maybe on the other side, or in a different position. It gave us both time to calm down before having another go - but it did mean each feed took a long time. I'm just grateful that the night-time feeds were ok, I guess being either hungry or tired meant she fed easier. If she fights now it is usually because she has had enough, or needs winding. We've started using infacol as she has got windier lately! It will get better - but that doesn't make it any easier to get through the difficult phases unfortunately!!
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