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Hi everyone,

I'm pretty new here and totaly confused by the quantity of info I've found here.

I see some girls had 'Chicago test' done in US (by sending blood samples), but as I understood there might be some London labs (or clinics) doing the same.



Please, any info about it!!! Any clinic in London doing 'Chicago'???



I've had 5 misscarr., level 1 test completed,nothing found. All losses between 6-7.week (only the first one was in 8- no heart action registrated).

Every pregnancy was sustained by progesterone (max dose, or so). The last one by fraxiparine plus (low molecular heparin)- no results.

Afterwards, 4 months I was treated with IVIG, but didn't get pregnant. IVIG was recomended as a good solution for undefined ,they suppose imune, problem (because it's harmless).

Now -nothing I take ,nothing I do. Acctually, waiting for my period (if it comes).

I'm afraid I have some imune disorder, but yet haven't discovered which one .



Any similar experiance will be highly appreciated!

Hope you will have successful stories to tell me about!

Thanks everyone!

Yes Tinks, I hope I will get information as much as possible , because I just discovered this field of immunology the other day , so I'm very unexperianed with any procedure.

In these two days I found out a lot and I'm quite sure I will need to take that step.



I'm from SERBIA, not Siberia (thank god),and it shouldn't be a trouble coming there.

Of course, noone wants to overpay what doesn't have, so thanks for advice. I wouldn't know myself which one to choose.

My head's 'ringing' all day, I cannot stop thinking of everything I got to know these days. I need a little break.

Till new research,

See u girls

...Meaning, whether we have dq alpha match or not, I would be treated with intrallipids as they are integral part of any immuno treatment.
Hmm, i just got a post about ARGC,as a cheaper ,not worse solution,so I'll see. If coming to london, i'll first get prepared everything here and do extra tests, if needed, (and/or some of them repeat), and then do everything else there.
This is my first day of thinking of london, so i need to sleep over the whole idea.
Now, I'm just happy to know there is hope and solution!

So Brave, I googled TNF and found which deseases couse it's growing.
That means you were tested on RA neg. ( it's in level 1) and don't have any genetic inheritage, but when your egg interacts with your husband's sperm, that's the trigger cusing the TNF growing. Any of it wouldn't occur if you changed partner. One of doctors, a biologist, who I asked about my case, asked me: All miscarr. with the same man?' Well, change the man, it's probably genetic incompatibility going on !' Very comfortably ,I thought! Luckily, even if he was right, there is a cure!

Yesterday I visited a IFV clinic just for consultation and advice about IVF in my case, and I was given the name of a dr who is specialised in immunology diorders, so I will try to find her and we'll se what she will have to say. Maybe it will be possible to do some additional tests here,or to repeat the other ones.Anyway, the dr who talked to us was open for new ideas of immunology tests and treatment (as I mentined possibility of going to england) ,which rather surprised me, because I know there's no many drs having seen cases like mine. The other day, I visited another clinic and dr , when saw my results, was like A-A-A , because he didn't know what else to say. I have to point out that both are very distinguished and prominent drs. Both clinic are in Skopje,Macedonia, where I'm currently living .

The very same day (i.e. yesterday) my father arranged me an appointment with the dr whose clinic is most successfull in IVF in Serbia. That would be in August. (for free,of course).

So, the very best thing would be if I came to london during the summer to do all tests I need and than came back here for IVF with 2 embryos transfered and give birth to the twins. The ideal scenario!!! Keep your fingers crossed for me!

I really evny you, Brave, cos you're so relaxed now, though I cannot imagine what stress and hell you must have been through while waited for the results. Now, you can be calm and just wait. What you wish, it must happen eventually.

Talk to you soon, girls!

If I told them I know the protocol, they would propose me to cure myself. Thay're so vain and if you don't know them personally, you'd better pretend not to know much!
I posted a post fo u at another thread!

This is a quote I copied from another british forum. It's about ARGC and Care Nottingham.

'You would need to add an initial consultation fee to that if you were a new patient with either doctor. Additionally I don't think either of these two clinics offer just immune testing if you are not a patient or did not intend undertaking treatment with them. '

Could it possiblly be true? Could you check it for me,please?

I realised I had to pay initial fee, but the post says :' Additionally I don't think either of these two clinics offer just immune testing if you are not a patient or did not intend undertaking treatment with them. ' . So, I was wondering if they would do my test only, without having all other procedures at their's? My plan was to get tested, get the results and be back home for further actions (whatever they would be like), not to stay overthere and keep paying for the things I can get for free. Would they accept to make test and not pregnancy protokol afterwords?

As for free IVIG, I've put a post at another thread, so you can read it there
Has anyone had a 'normal' result with level 2 immune tests??

Meanwhile, I've found Intrelipids info on serbian sites and checked out: it is on a list for free administration when needed. So, I hope it won't be a great deal getting it. But, on the other hand, some studies indicates IVIG as a mainstay of immuno treatman. It's sooooooo far to think about now!!!

What to say: do all analyses you can overthere, than find a serbian husband and his health security coverage will provide you with free treatments and medications.

Hi Saffron,

I may be pregnant at the moment, so first, I have to beat my body soldieers with all weapons I have not to fight our 'guest'. I haven't been a good host so far.

Are u implying that selecting dr and clinic make difference in interpretating test results and prescribing therapy?
I never though of it, cos my problem is as rare as the drs who could traet it.

Who is dr N.?

Thanks Saffron,
you made it clear, as for drs. So far i have been told that ARGC also could arrange test is done with no other bounds.


So,we'll see what happens next , but if I'm coming then I'll make sure to do as many analyses as possible. I'r better have them all done.

Yeah,yeah, but now ,before doing anything ,I have ti wait to to end 'this state of mine' up with either prg on ,or another miscarr.

You Tinks, recomended the ARGC as the cheapest and not the worst one, but we'll see when it comes to it!

I've decided to go for IVIG tomorrow morning, cos I don't feel like driving late at night!

The official date is tomorrow, (one day late).
I put a post on other topic.

I know the hospitals are not bad, I just wanted to say that cheaper doesn't mean worse!
If it comes to going to UK, I probably will make a choose depending on their schedule. That sounds reasonable!