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Sunday, September 27th 2009, 12:24pm

Advice please......

Hello all!

I've finally decided to join and write a post rather than just read everyone elses!

A bit of background first....

We have only been trying for a family since February this year. I came off the pill in January 2009 after nearly 17 years so I did think that it could take some time to concieve, combined with the fact that i am just about to turn 35.

I knew, from reading these forums, that most doctors wouldn't check us out until we had been trying to concieve for about a year, so i'm afraid to admit that i lied to the doctor and said that we had been trying since September last year! I felt really guilty about it, but having found out the results i'm glad that i did now!

I had bloods taken for the 21 day test and the results suggested that i was ovulating. My cycle lasts between 24 and 27 days.

My husband, who is just about to turn 31, was asked to provide a sample and he did so at ERI. The first results came back as inconclusive so he was asked to go back and give another sample, which he did 2 weeks later. We only found out what both sets of results were at the beginning of the week, and understandably my husband was gutted! We always presumed, if anything was wrong, that it would be me, because of my age and because of the length of time i was on the pill.

The results from the 1st sample were as follows

Count: 18.9
Motility: 16%

My husband hadn't ejaculated for 4 days and there was also a bit of spillage.

The results from the 2nd sample were

Count: 10.6
Motility: 57%

My husband hadn't ejaculated for 2 days.

From reading everyone else's posts it looks like we should have been given more information from our doctor, but i think she is quite newly qualified, so all she said was she was going to refer us as it looked like we would need a little help to concieve! I'm going to go back to her this week and see if she can maybe send out our results to get a wee bit more information.

I have a few questions that i'm hoping someone will be able to answer!

Why, in the space of 2 weeks, can there be such a big difference?
Would it make a difference in how long my husband had abstained before providing the sample?
What are the chances of conceiving naturally?
What will happen when we eventually get our appointment with the fertility clinic?

If i'm honest we both got quite lazy about things, so now i've got my husband taking multivitamins and extra zinc and vitamin C. I'm also considering buying some Maca as well which i've heard good things about it. My husband doesn't smoke, and he's not a huge drinker, he's not particulary overweight, unlike me! My BMI is 36 so I know that I do have to lose weight!

Sorry for the long post but once i started i couldn't stop! Hopefully some of you experts out there will be able to answer some of our questions...



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Sunday, September 27th 2009, 4:28pm

Hi Frizz,

From what I've experienced over the past few months sperm analysis is a tricky thing. First of all, I know that 2 weeks is not a big enough gap between the first and second samples. Sperm have a life span of about 3 months so to test a new 'batch' the second test should not be so soon. Also, I think they like you to abstain for 3/4 days so maybe the count on the second one was a bit less because of this? Is the count the total number of sperm in the ejaculate or the total per ml?

I hope this helps a little bit. Sperm Scientist and Paul are great on here and should be able to give you lots more specialist advice.

I too am hoping to get pregnant naturally but I'm also trying to keep positive about maybe having to have some help to conceive. Reading about so many ladies on here getting a BFP is reassuring.

Hope this helps a little,




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Sunday, September 27th 2009, 5:43pm

Hi Molly

Thanks for your response! It makes a huge difference being able to speak to people that know what you are going through..

The whole getting pregnant is just a minefield!! I can't believe i spent so many years trying not to get pregnant and stupidly thought when i came of the pill that would be it....

I have to admit i wasn't very reassured by our doctor. Don't get me wrong she was nice enough, but when i went for my appointment and mentioned that i was having problems conceiving she had to leave the room and get advice from her colleagues as she'd never had to deal with this issue before. She made another appointment for me to go back to get my 21 day bloods taken there and then and then had to phone me and re-arrange it because she didn't realise it had to be on a specific date. At the same time she told me my husbands first test was inconclusive and he had to get another one done. She never said that we should wait and we just went ahead with the next sample 2 weeks later. My husband came to the next appointment and then we were told his results. He seems to think the count was per ml but I can't remember whether the doctor specified this or not.

As i said i'm going to phone our doctor this week and see if she can either send out the results or give me some more information on the phone. Hopefully that will makes things a wee bit clearer.

We are trying to remain positive and we'll do everything we can to try and conceive naturally.



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Sunday, September 27th 2009, 8:43pm


I know of a number of our members in a similar position to you so you are certainly not alone and I am sure that you will soon make new friends with us, we have very friendly and supportive members that are sure to make your TTC journey that little bit easier, I hope you feel right at home with us all soon.

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Sunday, September 27th 2009, 8:48pm

:hello: Frizz!
Welcome to :FZ: I'm afraid I can't help with your specific situation, but it's fab that you've found this site. You'll be sure to get lots of help and advice here, and Eeyore has given you some good pointers to help you get started!
Best of luck with your journey!

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Nov 08 IVF 7 eggs (just one fertilised :sadface: - BFN
May 09 ICSI 1 - 7 eggs (two fertilised) BFN :sadface:
Aug 09 Another fibroid removed
Nov 09 ICSI 2 - 1 mature egg (it fertilised) BFN :sadface:

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