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Timbo

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Thursday, October 16th 2008, 1:23pm

What happens next?

Hi all, We have been ttc naturaly for over 12 months with no joy. We knew that I may have a problem as my partner has previously been pregnant on two occassions by her former partner. Very sadly she miscarried both times (no heart beat found at 12 week scan both times). I went to the doctor in august of this year who referred me for a SA. As expected the count was very low - 0.2 million. This morning I had the results of the 2nd SA - again low at 0.3 million. We both saw our GP this morning but came away feeling very upset and even more confused! Basically he was very uninterested, very insensitive and came across as not having a clue what to do. He is early sixties and told us that he has never ever experienced a problem like mine in his entire career!
We went looking for some guidance as to what will happen next but still have no idea :sadface:
I later telephoned the surgery asking to see another doctor but was told it would not be possible and not to worry as 'we have both been referred as indicated on the SA results'.
So, my question is simply what next and how long?
Who have we been referred to? (IVF Wales carried out the SA)
Will my partner have to have any tests bearing in mind her two mc's?

He also said something about referring me too urology but then said he woundn't bother..... I've never had any problems down there and all looks and feels normal!

Any help would be much appreciated as this is really playing on our minds! ?(
Me - 32 - 0.4 million count at last SA
DP - 35 able to concieve
1st appnt with fertility clinic 23/10/08

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Thursday, October 16th 2008, 1:36pm

Hi Timbo
Welcome to fertility zone, sorry to hear about your SA results, I know how you feel my DH has had 2 zero sperm results in the last couple of months, we are using a private clinic so I am not sure what the wait is like on the NHS, sorry i cant be more useful with regards to timescales but Im sure someone will be along soon to explain more about the NHS process. There are quite a few of us on here who fully understand how heartbreaking it is to find out there is a male factor problem, there is a male factor thread on here and also a diary section, feel free to pop in to say hello and to have a chat.

I really wish you all the luck in the world and I hope you and DP get some answers soon

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Thursday, October 16th 2008, 2:23pm

Hi Timbo

Sorry to hear about your results but even more sorry to hear of your appalling treatment!

Would you be able to ring back your GP and enquire who you have been referred to?

We were referred by our GP 2 weeks ago to a fertility clinic and she told us which one. I looked it up on HFEA website to see what he results were like and the options and then rang them up. They were really helpful (despite having to listen to me bleet on like a loon!).

I would think that regardless they would do blood tests on your partner - just to ensure that she is ovulating etc and to rule out any issues she might have? When you go to the clinic they will also carry out another SA on your - the clinics do a more thorough examination so that they not exactly what they are dealing with.

Did your GP make any recommendations to you re your count and how to improve it? My hubby was told to take zinc, 1000mg vit c, vit b complex and also to stop drinking entirely. he was also on meds that could affect his count and he started taking Maca (herbal supplement) 2 weeks ago as it's meant to improve count/motility/morphology and libido - his libido has definitely improved so i'm hoping the rest will follow suit. I wouldn't expect to see any marked improvement in his count for another couple of months though as it takes 70-90 days for sperm to mature.

I am not sure what the waiting times are like for you in Wales but maybe have a look on the HFEA website and see if that can help? Definitely ring your GP back and ask for more information since you have been told none.

Good luck to you both xx

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Thursday, October 16th 2008, 4:51pm

Hi Timbo,

Sorry to say this but I know how you feel. My DH was referred for a SA back in June and all went well we were referred to Midland Fertility Services and the results came back quite quickly. We went to see our GP and he hadnt a clue what the results meant - just that they recommended ICSI on the bottom of them. Our GP then said he would have to refer me to Gynaecology so they could check out I was OK (even though I had tests 4 years ago), anyway when we went for this gynae appointment the hospital sent us away saying that my doctor should not have referred me to there they should have referred us direct to a fertility clinic. Anyway you can imagine I wasnt too pleased so on the way back from the hospital I called at my doctors surgery and waited to see another doctor. This second doctor didnt have a clue either - he said he knew who to send me to but didnt know about when there is a problem with the male. He had to call his secretary to see who to refer us to. Anyway my DH now has an appointment with a urologist on Monday so I am hoping we have been referred to the correct person.

With reading various threads on this website my DH is taking Wellman capsules, zine and maca tablets - they cannot do any harm.

You mention you have never had any problems down there - neither has my husband - a urologist specialises in the reproductive organs as well so I am not sure what they can do but they can make sure everything is functioning as it should be. I have read about a varocele (probably spelt it wrong) on this website and apparently you dont know you have one so there can be a number of reasons why there are problems with sperm. My DH tends to be a bit "warm" down below so I am not sure if that is affecting his sperm - I mean if we get too hot we are sluggish so sperm must be the same.

Anyway wishing you all the luck in the world.
Miracle1

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TTC - 10 yrs, conceived naturally in 2002, M/C @ 6 wks :tears:
Enquired about adoption - but not for us
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Timbo

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Sunday, October 19th 2008, 1:18pm

Hi all and thanks for your messages! We did get some further info and questions answered by the receptionist at the clinic - she was brilliant! The clininc we have been refered to take both private and nhs cases. Waiting lists for the nhs route are around 4 months for the first appointment and then a further 12 months + for whatever treatment is required. Although there is no way we can afford to go private for treatment we have decided to pay for the initial appointment - will be worth it for the piece of mind and amazingly they can see us on Thursday! They did say however that we would also have to wait for the first appointment via the nhs route before we can proceed any further so I don't think we would be que jumping so to say. I'm guessing that they will arrange for any tests that may be required and they also have there own urologist if needed. Still, we are both looking forward to Thursday!

Can anyone give any tips on what questions we need to be asking at this first appointment?
Me - 32 - 0.4 million count at last SA
DP - 35 able to concieve
1st appnt with fertility clinic 23/10/08

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