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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 2:52pm

Rules about funding?

hi all,

I was just wondering who i would write to as i want to complain and appeal aabout us not being eligible for nhs funding as dh has already had children.

I know it probably wont get me anywhere but its worth a try.

Has anyone appealed and got a free go on the nhs?.

Any advice would be great.

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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 3:06pm

No you should complain and ask if your local mp will raise your question in the house of commons i swear i know it sounds ott but How are people going to understand how we feel if we dont tell them, i did it when there was no funding in north wales. funding was eventually granted, maybe our complaints helped it along you never know x x x good luck
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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 3:17pm

RE: RULES ABOUT FUNDING?

Hi Kat

This may or may not help. I was advised for my area that its all down to your local primary care trust they have all the authority to say yes or no, all request and appeals go through them.

Hope this helps.

Good for you appealing, and I wish you lots of luck high5



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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 3:58pm

I wrote to 2 local MP's, Tony Blair, the Health Secretary, Chief Exec of the PCT all to no avail :cross: :cross: X( X( :angry: :scream: :hairout

I just got the usual sorry about your situation but yadda yadda etc etc bla bla waffle waffle. :cross:

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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 4:27pm

Hey Kat,

I too am not eligable for funding due to postcode lottery (if I lived 2 miles up the road, I would get it :cross:). Just before Christmas I sent a letter to my local PCT (I had previously enquired by phone to confirm no funding but decided a letter could say more) and also one to our local MP. I did this via the internet and it was very straight forward, I just googled MP for my area and it came straight up, same with the PCT.

I wish you lots of luck and would encourage everybody to do the same because, as I wrote in the letter, infertility affects 1 in 6 couples and that is an awful lot of voters.

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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 5:15pm

hi all,

thanks for all your replies. i think it is definately worth a try.

will let you know how i get on.

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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 6:08pm

Hi Kayt, my PCT turned us down so I wrote back and they took it back to the panel and the appeal was overturned!

My dh had contracted Hepatitis C through a blood transfusion he had recieved whilst undergoing treatment for Leukemia (I know, bad isn't it?). As he could not sue the national blood service or the hospital we were damned if we were going to be told we had to pay for our first cycle!

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hi zoe,

thats terrible. I have just finished typing my letter so i will send it recorded delivery first thing tomorrow morning.

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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 6:49pm

Try contacting them through this site.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

Just as good as recorded delivery.

This is the only time mine reply to me by contacting him through this site. You get an e-mail back asking if your mp replied (keeping an eye on the lazy gits).
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Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 9:33pm

hi ripandcap,

thanks for that will give it a try

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Thursday, January 17th 2008, 11:54am

hi ripandcap,

that link you gave me was really helpful, thanks.

I have sent an email so hopefully will hear something soon.

will let you know how we get on.


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Thursday, January 17th 2008, 7:06pm

Hi girls,

This thread really hit on a sore point for me too. Refused tx as dh had vac & a child. We have paid out £10k so far between rev & 2 icsi. I only looked online yesterday on LWH where we had tx to see how the prices compare with last time. It would now cost over £4k for icsi. DEPRESSING or what!!

I find it really flustrating that in a way I am the innocent victim in this, all I want is a baby of my own & its not my fault what has happened in my dh's past yet its like am being penalised. I have been mulling over writing to loads of politicians etc but though I would sound like a nutter. Am really relieved to read that I am not alone in my anger & flustration.

Dear Eeyore

Please can I have the details of who to write to for North Wales area. Ta

Sorry for ranting, am aware NHS does not have a bottomless pit but what an outcry there would be if a patient was refused for example a simple op because their partner smoked in their house. See where am coming from.

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Thursday, January 17th 2008, 10:38pm

hi lel,

I certainly know how you feel, that we are the ones being penalised. Dont they know people change, life changes. Just cause your partner chose to hav a vac however many years ago doesnt mean to say that will be the case many years later.

Life and circumstances change all the time.

I think you should complain too, the more or us that do it the better i say we need to make them aware how we feel.

Also what about all the people that come to this country ( not meaning to be bad about this), but they get everything thats going, houses, rent paid for them, furniture, ivf everything.

yet the ones that have lived and worked here all our lives are descriminated against because they changed their minds or met new partners.

Its certainly an unfair world.

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Friday, January 18th 2008, 2:44pm

Hi Kat,

Yep am all fired up and ready to write a few letters. Yes I agree that people change & my dh was in a shite marriage & although it had just broken up, he went ahead with the op as his head was messed up & he thought he'd never meet anyone again. If he had been properly assessed in the hospital perhaps he may never had the op. (can you hear the bitterness in my voice)!!

I think the criteria should be changed....treatment for all

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Friday, January 18th 2008, 3:17pm

hi lel,

yes i agree totally.

you go girl get writing.
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Friday, January 18th 2008, 9:44pm

Dear Chalmers206 / Lel

Although I can symphasise with your situations and not being able to get the funding, at least your partners have children and their children are your step-children...

Today I found out about my rediculous situation, which when you think about it is so much worse than yours and inability to get the funding is even more unfair!!!

I live in Bristol and was planning to do ICSI in Bristol Clinic as my partner has a very poor sperm.... BUT Bristol PCT does not fund / part fund ICSI!!!!! I spoke to a lady who did ICSI in Bristol privately and she said to me that she even appealed in the past, offered to pay the additional cost of ICSI or to even at least have drugs funded, but Bristol PCT refused !!!!! :cross:

Another thing that she pointed out is that as a Bristol resident you would have to pay to have ICSI there, yet you could be sat in the waiting area (in a new wonderful unit in Bristol), with someone from Gloucester who will be having their ICSI cycle paid for.

I really don't know what to do!!! I feel like :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

Any thoughts?

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Friday, January 18th 2008, 11:39pm

hi honeybunny,


thats terrible. I dont really know what to say or advise you to do. We need icsi too i dont know if the same rules apply here in scotland will have to wait and see.

Anyway good luck with your treatment.

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Although I can symphasise with your situations and not being able to get the funding, at least your partners have children and their children are your step-children...

Today I found out about my rediculous situation, which when you think about it is so much worse than yours and inability to get the funding is even more unfair!!!





I have 'thought about it' and sorry if this offends but I don't see how one situation where funding is refused is worse than another..and I am honestly stunned at the comment 'at least your partners have children and their partners are your step-children'

You know the longing you have to have a child Honeybunny and how angry you are at the rules of funding, I am sure Chalmers and Lel have just as strong feelings, I am sure they want to carry their own child just as much as you do - the fact their partners have children, their step-children, has NOTHING to do with it and does not ease their pain one bit. The fact their partners have children does not make a scrap of difference to wanting a child of their own or make their want for funding any less important than yours, so, no, the 'inability to get the funding' is NOT more unfair.

The whole funding issue needs looking at in this Country, that goes without saying - but to put women who have remarried men with children behind any others would be a bloody disgrace








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Saturday, January 19th 2008, 9:14am

i have to say I agree with eeyore here, besides the fact that women may ot even have contact with these "step children" as some circumstances are not always as rosy as the brady bunch.

Can we please refrain from getting into a competition about who has the worst deal here? we are or have all experienced the heartache, pain and frustration associated with infertility and childlessness on here. :sadface:
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Saturday, January 19th 2008, 11:50am

kat - just to reassure you, but immigrants dont get IVF or NHS treatment on any more favourable conditions than any other UK resident.

for example, I am a UK citizen, as is my husband, but because we had not been living in the UK for at least a year prior to treatment we were not entitled to any free NHS treatment.

I know you are frustrated but please dont bash immigrants, particularly if you have the facts wrong.

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Saturday, January 19th 2008, 2:27pm

Hi Sunshine

Can I ask how do the NHS know that you were out of the country for a year?

What about all the taxes that you paid in all the previous years? That seems wrong to me that you don't get the funding because you went abroad for a year...

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Saturday, January 19th 2008, 9:06pm

HI Lel im a north walian too - my gp got me all the name and no i needed she contacted them firdt with all the big words then i rang when they missed there 1st reply dead line - not sure if i was suposed to but hey ho sometimes they need to be speaking to the actuall people whos life they detirmine.
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Saturday, January 19th 2008, 10:08pm

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People require IVF for many reasons, and I would not wish to prioritise person A over person B, as there is always someone with a more Heartrending story !

The fact is IVF treatment is governed by finance and budget - Which has to be allocated for the common good.
Outside of the FZ community, the majority of people (electorate) struggle to validate IVF funding as opposed to a new Cancer hospital - because they have little experience of TTC. For them it is a benefit but not a necessity.

That is a sad fact in the UK - and the localisation of healthcare has lead to even more discrepancies as you have noticed.

From experience I can tell you that ICSI and IVF is hard work - and the best way to get through the coming months is to focus on being positive.

We went through a few failures - But never considered blaming other people and the Why;s and Whynots of their funding. It is far too easy to Apportion blame nad become bitter, and that is not a place you want to be when you are facing 2WW or staring at a BFN.

The system is not fair - but it is the system - Work with it as best you can. Try and find a few chinks -

Inability to have your own family is hard enough no matter what your personal circumstances.


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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 12:58pm

HoneyBunny, I am not from the UK but I do work and pay taxes here.
I have to (yes, that is HAVE TO) let my home government know where I live and therefor I have to pay full medical costs in my home country.
I could of course cheat and get health care in my home country which has far superior medical standards but I would then have problems in other areas. I prefer to play by the book.

Since I am registered in the UK I get full NHS access which is great!
Imagine living here and not being entitled health care? That would be pretty grim!

I am doing a private cycle but get my drugs through the NHS. I am deeply grateful for this and hope that nobody will hold this against me, you know, me being non british and all!

I hope that all of us can manage to get through all this red tape business and that we all manage to have our treatment, as successfully and cheaply as possible and until then, I will just save as much money as I can to have treatment!
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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 3:29pm

Hi Torisen

I have a dual nationality... Have been paying taxes in the UK all my life...
I also pay for the private medical insurance (which does not cover IVF/ ICSI)...
And now I will have to pay privately for ICSI in Bristol....
It seems that no matter what I do - I have to pay!!!

Imagine living here and not being entitled health care? That would be pretty grim! Well, I don't know if there are ladies on here who are from the US or have lived in the US and experienced not having a National Service, but having a private medical for everything?

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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 6:45pm

HoneyBunny, have you contacted your PCT and queried your decision? What did your IVF consultant say?
If your consultant says that ICSI is the only way forward then your PCT might make an exception!
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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 8:07pm

hi all,


sorry if i caused a bit of trouble here but i just want to say i agree with kski that yes the world is unfair, but we have to deal with it.

I just thought it would be worth while appealing to see if we can even get one free go on the nhs, even if its just the ssr.

As i dont have lots of money coming in and it will take us years to save and probably like the rest of yous i am already up to my ears in debt and trying to clear that incase we do someday have a baby.

anyway sorry if i upset anyone.

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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 8:17pm

Kat hun, you haven't upset anyone at all and have nothing to apologise for. I am sorry that your thread has taken a bit of an ugly turn :sadface:

People may have strong views on who should and who shouldn't have funding but a degree of common sense needs to be used when posting those views so other members are not upset by them.

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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 8:21pm

hi eeyore,

I agree everyone has their own views but at the end of the day we are all in the same position in longing for a child, so i agree with you about trying not to offend others.

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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 8:24pm

Chalmers I dont think you have upset any one.
Your views are the same as many people, If life was as we dream none of us would need IVF never mind us having to beg borrow and Pray to have a baby.

We all deserve the cance to become parents AND to challage PCT's.

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hi,

yes i agree, you dont get anywhere unless you try.

will let you know what happens.

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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 9:35pm

Good Luck Kat, Your right - you can but try!

I'm currently waiting to see if we get any funding, we fit all the criteria except I'm 31 and under age range. My cons has tried as an exceptional case due to DH having cancer leaving him with no sperm. If we don't get it I will appeal and write to my MP. I'll go ahead and pay for a cycle whilst doing this because I can't bear to wait any longer :bawl:

Anyway fingers crossed for you!

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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 9:43pm

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hi,

yes i agree, you dont get anywhere unless you try.

will let you know what happens.

kat


It’s certainly worth trying Kat.
NHS trusts follow NICE guidelines and it is left largely up to each individual trust how far they implement the guidelines.
It seems there’s a wide disparity on the social criteria used for acceptance onto an NHS funded programme (half of the clinics say that their PCT wouldn’t fund treatment if either partner had had a child previously), it would also seem that some clinics WILL fund if the child is not living with you. It’s extremely unfair, they should all be following the same practice and, in my view, having children from a previous relationship should not mean you are excluded from access to NHS treatment. From what I have read, the NICE guidelines will be reviewed in February of this year so hopefully we will see some positive changes.
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Sunday, January 20th 2008, 10:27pm

hi holly and indiechick and glitzy,

thanks for the replies.

Indiechick= hope you get funding too good luck.

holly=i agree and dh's children are now 19 And 21 so not exactly "children"..

hope there is positive changes in feb.

fingers crossed.

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Monday, January 21st 2008, 8:14pm

Dear all

I would like to apologies for my comments earlier on this threat and especially to Kat.
I am really sorry... I did not mean to offend anyone! Although I probably have offended many of you and I will understand if you wouldn't want to speak to me anymore...

I realise that we are all in the same boat trying to get closer to our goal to be able to have a child of our own.... And I know exactly how all of feel on here....

Yes, you are totally right... It is not a competition in terms of whose case is worst or who deserves funding more...

I am sorry for being so insensitive when all of you have been really welcoming to me when I joined FZ!

In the future I will think twice before I post any comments...

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Monday, January 21st 2008, 8:25pm

Hi Honey bunny,

People will still want to talk to you.......were all friends and we want everyone to succeed regardless of situation.
You have said that you understand why you offended people and thats good, im sure the othere will be glad you have considered there comments and realise what they were trying to say. x x x
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Monday, January 21st 2008, 8:26pm

Hi HoneyBunny

Thanks so much, I am sure all of the girls will really appreciate your apology and I hope that the matter is now forgotten about. We all know how emotional this journey can be, so lets say no more about it

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Monday, January 21st 2008, 8:32pm

I live in Northern Ireland and thought that because i have children from a previous relationship that i would not be entitled to IVF on the nhs. As the law has changed in the recent year i now have discovered that me and my DP are entitled to one free shot at ICSI. Hopefully as its only come into effect here the law may change in your area too very soon. Fingers crossed for you Kat.
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Monday, January 21st 2008, 8:40pm

honeybunny, sending you a big hug, it is a very emotional journey, we all have our moments, and you are a very fine person for recognising your own "moment". It takes courage to admit our mistakes. (I should know I do it all the time - make mistakes that is! :happy:)

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Monday, January 21st 2008, 9:26pm

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I live in Northern Ireland and thought that because i have children from a previous relationship that i would not be entitled to IVF on the nhs. As the law has changed in the recent year i now have discovered that me and my DP are entitled to one free shot at ICSI. Hopefully as its only come into effect here the law may change in your area too very soon. Fingers crossed for you Kat.



hi shirls,

thats great news, hopefully it changes here too.

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I would like to apologies for my comments earlier on this threat and especially to Kat.



hi honeybunny.


apology accepted. Of course we will still talk to you.

Lets put it behind us and start again.

take care

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Monday, January 21st 2008, 10:02pm

Hi girls,

Only just caught up with the thread and am sending hugs to honeybunny, I understand how angry you are feeling. To be honest I was a bit taken aback & did fill up with tears but have been reassured by the lovely openminded comments by you all. My steppy is 16 & a half and although a gem, is not a substitue for my own bundle of joy.

Yes the funding issue is most unfair and has us all fired up but we must support each other and keep strong.

Thanks again to you all

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Tuesday, January 22nd 2008, 7:40pm

Hi girls

Thanks you for your comments and for being forgiving & understanding...

I feel that this "conceiving journey" makes my hormones and my head all over the place... One day I feel like - I don't want to have kids at all... The next day - I feel that I will be prepared to do 10 ICSI and will not give up until I have a baby!

I also feel cross and angry and keep asking myself "why it is me?!".... What have I done to deserve this? ... Then I will calm down and will think - "it is me, so just deal with it"...

What a roller coaster of emotions!!!

I hope that all of us will have the strength to "deal with the situation" and will see their BFP on the pregnancy test one day!

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Tuesday, January 22nd 2008, 7:44pm

Hi Honey Bun,

I think we all go through the same feelings, why me/us. There is no rhyme or reason.
But we all have each other to help find our way.

Glad its all sorted.
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Tuesday, January 22nd 2008, 8:01pm

Hi girls

HB anger is a natural emotion and eventually acceptance will follow. I have been through the death of both my parents at an early age, one was from cancer and the other was a sudden death and I have been through one marriage break up but to be honest nothing I have been through compared to life during tx. The highs the lows, the hope and the moments of despair. Until someone has been there then its so hard to express what we go through. But it will be all worth it one day when we get our longed for BFP.

1xbaby please

Hi there, glad I sent the pm to the right place.


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