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MCD

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Tuesday, November 27th 2007, 6:32am

When your Reproductive Endocrinologist leaves you

Well not sure what was worse last week the clinic calling to say that my LET no. 4 had failed (transferred two embies at day 3 - usually do 5 day blasts but I think they were worried there would be nothing left to transfer if we waited), or the fact that the nurse informed me that my RE (Reproductive Endocrinologist) is leaving in 3 weeks never to return. I am 43 mid next year, and have NO OTHER CHOICE re conceiving a child other than IVF. Had a HSG this year (Wow that was actually worse than unmedicated posterially positioned baby suctioned out your fanny child birth and a burst ectopic with 3 litre blood loss!!!!!!) and all roads leading to my ovaries are blocked.

Looks like the last ditch sad attempt to transfer my 2 remaining frosties before Xmas is it. DH is very over the whole thing and it has become such a financial drain. Spent the weekend in a wild cleaning frenzy with the AF from hell as we tried to clean up for yet another house evaluation so that we can remortgage yet again. Wish I could bring myself to a state of acceptance about stopping this mad process. Maybe now that my RE is leaving, I should take the hint that it is all over and just get on with enjoying the cool one I have.

Me = 42 (no tubes from 2 x ectopics and managed to fit a 6 week mc in between them) DH = 38 (fully functional)

IVF Attempt No. 1
1 x LET (1 embie) March 2004 = BFN (8 Frosties)
1 x medicated FET (1 embie) April 2004 = BFN
1 x medicated FET (1 embie) June 2004 = BFN
1 x medicated FET (1 embie) July 2004 = BFP and DS Yay!!!!!

IVF Attempt No. 2
1 x natural FET (1 embie) Nov 2006 = BFN (1 2004 frosty didn't survive the thaw)
1 x natural FET (1 embie) Dec 2006 = BFN (1 2004 frosty didn't survive the thaw)
1 x natural FET (1 embie) Jan 2007 = BFN (last of the 2004 embies)
1 x LET (1 embie) Feb 2007 = BFN (1 Frosty)
1 x natural FET (1 embie) April 2007 = BFN
1 x LET (1 embie) May 2007 = BFN (3 Frosties)
1 x natural FET (2 embie) August 2007 = BFN
1 x LET (2 embie) Nov 2007 = BFN (1 Frosty)
2 Frosties left (hatching blasts)
MCD

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Thursday, November 29th 2007, 7:39pm

Hi, MCD
Sorry to hear your news. Here's hoping that your FET will result in the much wanted BFP.
Bit confused re your abreviations: LET? RE?


PCOS, hypothyroid - on thyroxine, aspirin and Met
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DIUI X5 + 2 abandoned cycles (total 7 cycles)
:BFP: 22 March 2006 - Connor Born 24 November 2006 - unplanned c-section
At 3 and a half C finally gave up the boob!

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Friday, November 30th 2007, 6:25am

IVF Abreviations

Rene,

Hi. Thanks for responding. These are acronyms used at IVF Connections a US fertility site. RE is your IVF specialist and stands for Reproductive Endocrinologist, LET is actually mine, they use ET which is Embryo Transfer LET is Live Embryo Transfer vs FET which is a Frozen Embryo Transfer. Glad to see you got their with DS (darling son). I breast fed my DS for 19 months (only stopped to start IVF again). Given that he was both breast and formula fed from birth (I have shockingly low supply which runs in the family from my grandmother, mother and sister down) I was very proud of myself continuing both for so long. Most women, other than my sister and I apparently, give up on doing both around the first couple of weeks.

Cheers,

MCD and thanks for the good wishes. :smile:
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Friday, November 30th 2007, 11:06am

Well done on the breast feeding. It must have been hard to give up though. I have been breast feeding for a year now and people keep telling me it's about time for me to stop but I am not ready. I think that if I were trying for number two then I would but as I am not I am going to try to continue till my little man is 2...


PCOS, hypothyroid - on thyroxine, aspirin and Met
Lap/Ovarian Drilling Oct 2005
DIUI X5 + 2 abandoned cycles (total 7 cycles)
:BFP: 22 March 2006 - Connor Born 24 November 2006 - unplanned c-section
At 3 and a half C finally gave up the boob!

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Friday, November 30th 2007, 12:03pm

Breastfeeding and trying again with IVF

Rene,

Yes, it was extremely difficult to give up. I wanted to breast feed until he was at least 2 but because of my age (43 mid next year) I had very little time to leave between his birth and trying again. As it was we probably started a year too late and are now paying the consequences. Don't let anyone tell you to stop breastfeeding. I went back to work when little man was 8 months old and I got up early every morning to give him a feed, popped him on first thing when I got home and then again to put him to sleep. The saddest thing was how quickly he moved on, took him about three days :bawl: Oh well, the bizarre thing is a year later I can still get a tiny bit from one side???? Go figure. If I had been resigned to never trying again I would have just kept on going until he lost interest. I was lucky that I had rhino nipples which got me through the early days of low supply and then when he started biting at about 1 year. Just keep going until you want to stop. I just ignored all the idiots at work who would look at me with shock and surprise that I was still breast feeding after he turned 6 months old.

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MCD
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Wednesday, December 5th 2007, 11:33pm

RE: Breastfeeding and trying again with IVF

Welcome to FZ, MCD.

I, too, twice stopped breastfeeding solely so that I could start medications for IVF again. Broke my heart to stop (at 9 and 10 months), especially when the first and second etc cycles didn't work - it felt like I'd stopped for nothing. But by that age, a baby isn't as dependent on milk so it isn't traumatic for them - it's usually much worse for the mother!

I'm the wrong side of 40 too, so I know about the deafening ticking of the clock. Of course with hindsight I wished I hadn't left it so late, but I know I wasn't in the right place to start trying even when I was in my early 30s.

Instead of LET (I didn't work that one out either), I think we would tend to say "fresh" vs "frozen". Frozen ones, after all, are defrosted and thus "live" too!

As a minimum, surely you'll try with your two remaning frosties?
Had a total of three fresh IVF cycles and three frozen transfers (embryos and blastocysts)
m/c @ 11 weeks in 2007 DS1 and DS2 born from fresh IVF cycles :D
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Friday, December 7th 2007, 6:03am

RE: Breastfeeding and trying again with IVF

Hey Limpet,

Thanks for the welcome. Good point about the frosties, your quite correct, even the US site calls them Fresh vs Frozen cycles. In Oz the nurses at the IVF clinic sometimes refer to it as a live cycle (hence my terminology). Mind you its not always the case, we think two of my frosties that didn't make the thaw were already gone during the freeze process. I will try the last two frosties but the embryologist didn't hold out much hope as they are both hatching 5 day blasts, apparently great if fresh but her experience has been that they tend to take in too much fluid during the thaw rendering them pretty useless. Oh well, clearly miracles happen or DS wouldn't exist.

Hope all is well with you.

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Friday, December 7th 2007, 10:07pm

RE: Breastfeeding and trying again with IVF

I had six day 5 blastocysts frozen, and used them up in two frozen transfers. A total of four out of six thawed successfully. Although I got bfn on both transfers, at least they were alive when transferred. On the law of averages, you would probably get at least one of yours survive the thaw and that sounds worth a frozen cycle to me.
Had a total of three fresh IVF cycles and three frozen transfers (embryos and blastocysts)
m/c @ 11 weeks in 2007 DS1 and DS2 born from fresh IVF cycles :D
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Monday, December 10th 2007, 5:43am

Last attempt with frosties

Limpet,

Cheers for this. We are trying tomorrow with the last two if either thaw out OK. Who knows DS was 1 little frostie that worked. I just get a bit freaked when I do the stats and work out that he is one of 61 total eggs retrieved and one of the 18 embies out of this 61 that fertilized normally.
MCD




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