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Wednesday, April 6th 2011, 1:34pm

unexplained infertility

hi there people, newshy

i am married and 20, me and my partner have been trying to conceive for 1 year and nothing has happend :sadface: i spoke to my doctor about this but he dosent seem to be taking it seriously, he says im young so should have nothing to worry about, i have regular af each month but still nothing. i was jus generally looking for information if anyone has experienced this before....

all help greatly appriciated :cheese:

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Wednesday, April 6th 2011, 1:42pm

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Wednesday, April 6th 2011, 6:32pm

Hi princess and welcome to :FZ:
It can take up to 2 years for healthy people to conceive, and because of your age your doctor will not do any tests until those 2 years have gone by.
This you can do to help you:
1) Chart your monthly cycle so you know when you are most fertile. You can use ovulation sticks to help you.
2) Have regular sex (every 2 or 3 days).
Check these:
EWCM (Egg White Cervical Mucus) explains about how you can monitor your fertility by looking at your vaginal discharge
Cervical mucus questions
INFO: A ROUGH GUIDE TO BBT CHARTING

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Monday, June 6th 2011, 10:26pm

Hi there princezz barker... I had the same with my doctor, i got pregnant before but sadly m/c so my doctor says there cant be anything wrong with either of us, but yet it has been 18 months of trying with no luck. I am 23 so i just assumed that it would happen for us quickly.

My advice would be to get ur husbans sperm checked first, our doctor agreed to do that after a year, but he has hestitated to do any more tests so were going to a private fertility clinic for my tests and then i can take my results to my doctor.

hope this helps

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Friday, June 10th 2011, 6:44pm

Hi luv, i totally argee with all that has been said.

I too was young when we ttc, i am now 26 and have been with dh for 11 years, we are now just starting our first ivf journey.

My extra advise would be not to let the doctors push you down, just because you are young, i was messed around for years, and it really hurt.
Do what you can now, with the charting, get your dh sperm tested,

I hope your dreams come true, you have loads of support on here from some wonderful people.
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Tuesday, August 16th 2011, 12:04pm

Hiya,

We have been TTC for 2 years now, and both my GP and Consultant have told me that (more than likely), I have unexplained infertility. It is so frustrating because we don't know where to go next? I'm hvaing a hycosy test this week, and if my tubes are clear then they are going to put me back on Clomid again (have already done 4 cycles on it), but if that doesn't work, I think our only avenue left is IVF .My consultant rather blatantly said 'lets hope that you don't need that, because you will have to pay for it', as my partner has 2 children from a previous relationship. Don't even get me started on that! He has had children, I haven't!! So if that is our only resort we will first have to save how ever many thousands that it costs to have that done ;(

Everyone keeps telling me'think positive and it will happen everntually', but that is far easier said than done, especially after 2 years of TTC. Every month the weight on my shoulders gets heavier and I know that I'm being affected mentally and emotionally by all this, which is probably not helping me to get pregnant.

I wish you lots of luck and hope that it happens for you soon xx

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Monday, September 5th 2011, 11:20am

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Hi princess and welcome to :FZ:
It can take up to 2 years for healthy people to conceive, and because of your age your doctor will not do any tests until those 2 years have gone by.
This you can do to help you:
1) Chart your monthly cycle so you know when you are most fertile. You can use ovulation sticks to help you.
2) Have regular sex (every 2 or 3 days).
Check these:
EWCM (Egg White Cervical Mucus) explains about how you can monitor your fertility by looking at your vaginal discharge
Cervical mucus questions
INFO: A ROUGH GUIDE TO BBT CHARTING

Good luck babydust


Hi Maria,

I was just reading your signature I was wondering what led you to start immune tests. Was that a suggestion from your doc? Of did you have to insist for that?

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Monday, September 26th 2011, 4:46am

Hi, I too had to push for my Doc to do any tests and I was 31 when we started ttc. What helped for me was that we'd been using something called a persona which showed your fertile times each month and it started showing I wasn't ovulating every month (which can be perfectly normal), but it did make me more insistent at the Docs. Now I know that there is a sympathetic Doc at our surgery and I go to him for any ttc issues..........

Maria will no doubt be along to answer your question soon but as an aside........ immunology testing is not available on the NHS, you have to go privately for it.
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Sunday, October 23rd 2011, 3:31pm

Too many cases of infertility appear to be idiopathic diagnoses -for both male and female partners , I am really concerned that many couples are being fobbed off by their GP's or worse the consultants they're referred to at fertility clinics.
This may be down to me expecting too much but it is a worry looking at the stats and numbers of unexplained cases are high, 75% of male factor is idiopathic - I find this shocking.

The more patients that take a stand and request further testing and push for answers may lead to more research and greater knowledge, better diagnosis and hopefully improved treatments.

I know Reproductive Med Consultants aren't miracle workers, there are limits to their knowledge and they can only offer treatments that are approved and available which sadly may not be suitable or effective for all.

It's just very disappointing/frustrating to discover that the limit of our medical specialists knowlwedge and capabilities are rapidly reached all to often in the field of fertility treatment.

It may just be that I am a cynical and belligerent mother funster who never gives up and always questions everything, I just think we deserve answers - we may not get a solution to our conditions or even an improvement now but at least we'd know why/what caused infertility/subfertility and this may one day lead to some bright lab coated genius solving the problem for future sufferers.


Peace,love and luck TTC

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 3:01pm

Hiya,

We have been TTC for 2 years now, and both my GP and Consultant have told me that (more than likely), I have unexplained infertility. It is so frustrating because we don't know where to go next? I'm hvaing a hycosy test this week, and if my tubes are clear then they are going to put me back on Clomid again (have already done 4 cycles on it), but if that doesn't work, I think our only avenue left is IVF .My consultant rather blatantly said 'lets hope that you don't need that, because you will have to pay for it', as my partner has 2 children from a previous relationship. Don't even get me started on that! He has had children, I haven't!! So if that is our only resort we will first have to save how ever many thousands that it costs to have that done ;(

Everyone keeps telling me'think positive and it will happen everntually', but that is far easier said than done, especially after 2 years of TTC. Every month the weight on my shoulders gets heavier and I know that I'm being affected mentally and emotionally by all this, which is probably not helping me to get pregnant.

I wish you lots of luck and hope that it happens for you soon xx

Hey hun I just had to reply to your comment as I had something very similar.

I am 24. I came off contraception when i was 18 after I got married. We 2 miscarriages in as many years, and my GP (after me bugging him for months) sent us to the gynae. I had blood tests for ovulation and hormones etc, I had a laparoscopy to rule out endometriosis, dye round my fallopian tubes which was clear, and scans showed follicles on my ovaries but not severe enough to be PCOS.

After all this we had another miscarriage and sadly my husband and I split up. But when I got with my partner after that, we went back to gynae and we were referred to fertility clinic on the NHS. After 6 months on Clomid there was nothing, so we called the clinic and they said "Well, if Clomid didn't work then there is nothing else we can do for you except IVF...and I doubt you can afford that" because my partner had 2 girls from a previous relationship, they wouldnt do IVF.

Wehen I got with my partner now (yes I know partnet number 3, but please bare in mind this is over 6 years!) we decided soon after we got together to try and get on the IVF waiting list. As it takes 2 years to get an appointment, we decided we would be ready by then. If we split for any reason, we would cancel our place
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Well.....we went to the GP to ask about it and on Oxfordshire they do not offer free IVF unless you are over 30!!!!! I mean really? How stupid is that!

So I came across a clinic called CRM (there is a thread on here about them) where they do something called "egg sharing". This basically means that you get FREE (and I mean FREE) IVF, but you share half of the harvested eggs with a woman who cant ovulate. So basically you help her out with eggs and she pays for your IVF cycle.

That is what my fella and I are doing now, we only pay £75 for the HFEA fee to be a donor and our travel and everything else is covered. I was worried at first about donating my eggs, but then I realised that this is actually an opportunity to completely change someone elses life, while in turn changing your own. You are helping each other achieve your dreams of being a mother.....when I realised this I booked the consultation.

Egg sharing isnt for everyine, but it's an option. I mean, my partner and I could probably afford a cycle of IVF if we really saved, but if we did get pregnant we would have no money left to buy baby things...and kind of defeats the point.

Anyway, I hope this helps...it's another avenue to try...in the meantime I really hope Clomid works xx
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Wednesday, August 7th 2013, 6:25pm

Unexplained Infertility, Recurrent implantation failure, multiple IVFs

Hi, I would like to share my experience and findings in regards to multiple failed IVFs and years of unexplained infertility.
After 4 years of infertility my DH and I moved to IVF treatment option. Having done 2 fresh 2 frozen unsuccessful IVFs we were told we have recurrent implantation failure. It took us a long time to investigate what was the reason for the implantation failure. I feel very lucky that at the end I have found a fertility specialist who said there is no such thing as "unexplained infertility", there is unestablished not found diagnosis or wrong diagnosis. am half way through my pregnancy now and I feel that I would like to share my preseouse findings with someone who is looking for the same thing. Please find details in my personal information below.
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Monday, May 14th 2018, 4:05pm

Hey. I am so sorry to hear that. I have seen and heard many cases like this. My sister was 20 when she was not able to conceive babies. She tried but failed. Her doctor said that it may be because she is too young. She was upset but tried. It took 3 years but no luck. So when she came to know about her infertility it was a bit late. She went for treatment but she just wasted her time. In the end, when she was 25 she made her mind to go for surrogacy. She went for it and now she is living with her baby. I am so happy for her that she made a right choice. She is planning to have another baby. I am happy that she find it beneficial.

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Wednesday, May 16th 2018, 5:02pm

Hi. How are you doing? Sorry to hear about your infertility. A year is a long time. I think you should change your doctor. Unexplained infertility is not uncommon. But in your case, it should be highly unlikely. The reason your doctor gave you is so weird since younger people are supposed to be more fertile. So it really doesn't add up. But in no doctor. I'm just giving you my two cents on your condition. It is really important that you change the doctor. Maybe you just need some assistance in getting pregnant. I think you should consider IUI for yourself. Talk to your doctor about it. It works in cases like yours. Do let us know what you decide. Good luck.

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Wednesday, May 16th 2018, 8:32pm

Hi, I too had to push for my Doc to do any tests and I was 31 when we started ttc. What helped for me was that we'd been using something called a persona which showed your fertile times each month and it started showing I wasn't ovulating every month (which can be perfectly normal), but it did make me more insistent at the Docs. Now I know that there is a sympathetic Doc at our surgery and I go to him for any ttc issues

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Thursday, May 17th 2018, 6:17am

Hello dear! I hope are doing fine. I am so sorry to hear about you. Well, you don't need to take the stress. Have you consult with the right doctor. I think you should change your doctor and consult with the best gynecologist. I hope you would get positive results from there. Wish you Good luck. Stay blessed.

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Thursday, May 17th 2018, 1:56pm

Hi dear. Good to see that you are sharing your problem. Well, mate that really is not a time of tension. And the doctor is right. You just keep trying. One my friend tried for 6 years to conceive. And she did it at last. Don't lose patience and hope. You are young, you have time to try. And the thing does not work you still have so many options. Also if you are not satisfied, maybe change your doctor. It will give you relaxation. Best of luck.

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 4:51pm

After 4 years of infertility my DH and I moved to IVF treatment option. Having done 2 fresh 2 frozen unsuccessful IVFs we were told we have recurrent implantation failure. It took us a long time to investigate what was the reason for the implantation failure. I feel very lucky that at the end I have found a fertility specialist who said there is no such thing as "unexplained infertility", there is unestablished not found diagnosis or wrong diagnosis. am halfway through my pregnancy now and I feel that I would like to share my previous findings with someone who is looking for the same thing. Please find details in my personal information below.

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 6:07pm

Hey! You're very young. Your doctor is correct. Plus you haven't been TTC for a very long time. Trust him and keep the faith. It'll happen. Don't lose hope!

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Tuesday, May 22nd 2018, 6:48pm

Sorry to hear that you are unable to Conceive. I think you should go to a doctor. He would tell you whether there is some Infertility problem or not. I had cervix Incompetence disease due to which I was left Infertile. I was not even aware of that. I was so devastated when I first heard about my Infertility. Then I went for its treatment but nothing could change. My Doctor Suggested me to go for Surrogacy. I went to Europe for the Suggested Clinic. I have a baby girl now. I am so blessed now. I suggest you Consult a good doctor for your problem. I hope you would get positive

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Sunday, May 27th 2018, 1:50pm

@anayahill - I am sorry to know your story. Have you considered combining IVF with PGS NGS, that might increase your chances of getting pregnant? x

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Tuesday, May 29th 2018, 5:57pm

Hey princess. How are you doing? Well, I hope you are doing fine. Dear, I don't think there is any need of worrying. Because doctors are right you both are young enough. There is no need to worry. Just keep trying. And be hopeful and stay positive. Things will come to you on time If still, you are not satisfied. You may change your doctor. And do some tests. But I don't think so there is any need. Because you both are still so young. I know couples who conceive their first child in forty's. The final choice is yours. Hope so my decision will be yours.

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Tuesday, May 29th 2018, 6:26pm

Hey! Hope so you are doing good. I just read your post. I think you should for go for a complete medical check-up if you have all the signs as an adult has. If you don't have such signs then you should wait for a while. Everything comes on time. You just stay positive everything will be fine. That's my opinion.
All my sympathies are with you.

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Tuesday, May 29th 2018, 6:39pm

Seriously pitjulie19 please stop commenting on forums that are clearly not going anymore, you clearly have little to do with your time!!!

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Tuesday, May 29th 2018, 7:17pm

Agreed Martha, I suspect most of the above posts are spammers with no experience of infertility and ivf!!

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Wednesday, May 30th 2018, 7:27am

Greetings!! Well, indeed you are young, and you have regular periods. Good thing!! But it could be indicating something. Well, it is said that if your TTC and no luck., then you must see a fertility doctor. You can consult with a good RE, to check your hormones checked. Because saying "you have nothing to worry about" isn't enough sometimes. I have been told this once. but now nearly 9 years of TTC and no luck. Hun, I don't want to scare you, but sometimes you never know what lies ahead. I strongly believe that waiting doesn't do good unless you keep looking for it. See a good RE, this will give you some hints about the chances of conceiving. And how much longer you can wait or is the wait worth? In case of any issue. You may be referred to a respective specialist. Good luck

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Wednesday, May 30th 2018, 1:55pm

Sujas please stop putting random comments on threads that are years out of date and obviously no longer active !