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Saturday, March 2nd 2013, 12:38pm

supplements for decresed ovarian reserve

hiya, been revising supplements i should be on. my DHEA arrived today and im still unsure as to take them or not?

im waiting on further supplements to arrive. they are royaljelly, bee propolis, l'arginine, alpha lipoic acid, selenium and vit c complex to arrive.

i am currently taking at breakfast

co-Q10 2 x 35 mg

then at teatime

vit c 1 x 1000 mg
zinc 1 x 15 mg
iron
vit b6 1 x 10 mg
pregnacare conception
omega 3 fishoils

when my next cycle starts from day 1 to ovulation 1 x evening primrose oil
5 days before and until ovulation robittuson cough medicne. 2 teaspoons 3 x a day

he is on at teatime

zinc
co-Q10
folic acid
vit b12
vit c
iron
omea 3 fish oils

he will be taking royal jelly, bee propolis, l'arginine and selenium

so just wondering if i need the DHEA or not.

any answers would be greatly appreciated, thanks

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Saturday, March 2nd 2013, 12:41pm

*meant to say waiting on vit b complex

oops

sorry
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Sunday, March 3rd 2013, 8:15am

haha - last night answered my own question NO DHEA FOR ME!

25mg only and i suffered insomnia last night. still awake at 1.30 am and watched night turn into day. 5.30 am poorly LO woke up and i've had no sleep at all :no: , so definitely not taking any more. will stick with 2 x Co-Q10 daily after breakfast.

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Sunday, March 3rd 2013, 9:19am

Again, I would speak to a qualified nutritionist about all these supplements jade, or at least with your clinic. My understanding of DHEA is that if you take it you need monitoring as it can have undesirable side effects.

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Sunday, March 3rd 2013, 1:50pm

yeah maria thanks :-). insomnia defintely undesirable. so not took any today and dont intend. and jeez, that was only 1x 25mg tablet, not full 75mg. just stick to the CoQ10 from now on ;-)

havent got a clinic atm, so back to trying naturally :-(. hoping if egg quality increases, might actually get it to stick this time.

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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 10:18am

Wow

Well I am amazed.

My clinic have not told me or advised me to take anything for poor ovarian reserve- they told me flat out that nothing can be done and not to bother. Same for my DBs low sperm count and poor motility.

I am glad someone is getting proper advice and care as we have gotten nothing! Good luck and I will be looking into these for myself now and going to see my GP for more advice.

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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 2:15pm

hi neaverbeaver,

my clinic when i was with them said exactly the same thing. so ive been doing some research and reading on google and other fertility forums and basically self prescribed. i kind of thought, well theyre vitamins, they cant harm you, but if it helps - what the heck? if it dont, what have i lost - some money, thats all. and i've foound out pretty quickly DHEA doesnt suit me, so just drop that one and im back to normal :-).
just waiting for af to start so i can start using my cbfm again in conjunction wth vitamins, and hopefully in 12 weeks should have some good news. then its back off to somewhere else to print off vitamin list for pregnant ladies who suffer recurrent miscarriages. the information is out there if you search hard enough.

although, i would never recommend doing it blind (as i am) and always gets advice from the relevent bodies. unfortunately i cant atm, as gp and i are in the mddle of a dispute. im not sure i'll ask my gp anyway as they are GENERAL practitioners not specialist herbalists. i have asked at holland and barrett, however, and they seem well up on fertility knowledge :-). i may just be clutching at straws, guess only time will tell.

anyway, best go. good luck with advice/research

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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 6:37pm

Girls your clinics are right: low ovarian reserve means you are running out of eggs and yes there is nothing anyone can do about it.
The supplements may improve the quality of the eggs you have left, but the numbers stay the same. Women are born with a certain number if eggs, which eventually run out completely. There is no treatment for this.

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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 6:55pm

yeah i know maria :-), thats all im hoping for - that they become good enough quality to produce and more importantly sustain any hopefully resulting pregnancy

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Friday, March 8th 2013, 9:52am

Yes, I can live with only have 5 or 6 follicles but I would hope they would be of a better quality and not D quality as mine were last time...

Hope is needed so leave us with that, Maris, please!! ;)
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Friday, March 8th 2013, 3:27pm

It's good to hope but you also need to be realistic.
Thinking that taking supplements will restore your fertility is not realistic and anyone that tells you that is being dishonest with you .
Supplements may improve your general health and your remaining eggs' quality. And that's it.
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Sunday, April 14th 2013, 8:53pm

I agree with everything Maria has said but would like to add that the correct supplements can sometimes help in sperm quality. My dh had poor morphology and mobility but after taking selenium and zinc for 3 months this came up to normal, it was still on the low side of normal but still within normal guidelines where previously he had been classed as subfertile. The difference is that men produce sperm throughout their reproductive lives whereas women are born with all the eggs they will ever have.


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Sunday, April 14th 2013, 10:59pm

I am not sure if there is any medical evidence to support this, but I took Royal Jelly capsules during my last cycle (during stimulation phase only) which I think helped the quality of my eggs. I wouldn't say it increased numbers (can they increase you Gonal F or whatever) but the two I had were really good quality and resulted in my twins! Just an idea!
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Monday, April 15th 2013, 9:45am

thanks for that hayley564. its good to hear.

grace - my dh's sperm has changed dramatically since i got him on a load of vits. last year when he had a SA done, they said his count hadnt gone up but <72% were mobile so very good motility, previously had been >34%. he also had morphology issues and they came back greatly improved and he also had clumping. on our own visuals, his sperm has changed from looking like wallpaper paste to liquid, as it should be.

just hoping that both of us being on various vits is going to be the deciding factor in sustaining a pregnancy. i did get pregnant last july when he was on vits (not me) naturally, but in the early august i miscarried. which must be down to my less than good quality eggs.

i then went on to have embryo donation in spain in january this year, but a bfn for me. now the money has run out and we are back to trying naturally with my own eggs. so the vitamins really are my last hope!

thanks again for the positives

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Monday, April 15th 2013, 6:19pm

As far as. Know, vitamins, especially antioxidants definitely help sperm count. However, as I said earlier and as Grace said, there is nothing that can help women in the same way.
The right supplement s will help being healthy, which is a good thing when ttc.

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Sunday, April 21st 2013, 9:55am

well, dont know if this is a good thing, but i have a feeling its due to the vitamins. ihave been recording ovulation via CBFM on and off for 12 months now. i ovulate every 2nd month due to left ovary not having any follicles any more and for the ast year when i have ovulated its been on day 12, regular as clockwork.

i have been on the vitamins now for nearly 12 weeks. and i can report a change. ovulation hasnt ocurred this month until today day 14. i am feeling so upbeat about this, i cannot express how happy i am. my thinking is the vitamins must be doing something to improve the QUALITY of my follicles. hopefully this one will be mature enough to stick and more importantly sustain any resulting pregnancy that could potentially come from all the [zx084] we have done this cycle.

please have xfingers for me. thank you

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