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Thursday, April 12th 2012, 10:20am

Pre IVF do's & Don'ts & diet advice pls..

Good morning Ladies.

Got my egg share consultation on 30th April at CRM London - quite nervous :S

Jumped on the scales this morning and Ive put on half a stone since the last time I weighed myself .. Now my BMI is 24 so not a drastic problem but I do want to get back down to 9st... or as close to as poss!

Ive done the tesco shake diet before & wondered if this is ok to do before IVF?

It has lots of vitamins and stuff in it but it may also contain sweetners which somebody has said to avoid so not sure about that?

Obviously I want to have the very best possible chance so I've stopped smoking & gone from 15 a day to zero.. stopped my sweetners, stopped my coffee & Tea & replacing it all with Oolong Tea & green Tea which now I'm not sure about as I read somewhere it contains caffine too? 8|
Just need to keep up my water intake & get rid of some of this junk in my trunk!


Any suggestions? There is so much to read...& its so confusing as I am getting conflicting information & just want to do things right. Is there anything that I should be warned about to totally avoid? any help on diet would be really appreciated!

I just want to know I did everything I could to make this work so I know I can't blame myself if it all goes wrong..

Thanks so much ladies xx

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Thursday, April 12th 2012, 11:24am

Hi Dangermouse

I'm not sure whether staying on the diet shakes is such a good idea when you're preparing for IVF but here are some of the things I did for about 3 months before my first IVF cycle:

- Changed to decaf tea
- Ate a balanced, healthy diet
- Started taking Pregnecare Pre-Conception Vitamins
- Started having acupuncture once a week
- Reducing alcohol intake to a minimum
- Take regular exercise...yoga is very good for relaxation

Well done for giving up smoking as that will certainly help and you won't have to worry about trying to give it up when you get your beautiful BFP. Good luck!!!



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Thursday, April 12th 2012, 11:29am

Hi there I'm no expert but will pass on the wisdom others have given me.
Firstly isn't ur BMI in the healthy range? IF so i would be wary of going on a diet as such..they want u to be as healthy as possible and not trying to lose weight (Unless u need to).
Eating well balanced meals was recommended to me..certainly not shake diets etc. As i say I'm only passing on what i have been told but the lead up to ivf is also very important. i used to be very cautious of what i ate but since starting all the treatment i make a conscious effort to eat more. lots of fresh fruit and veg, wholegrains and the biggest think i upped was my protein. Protien is very important for eggs. I changed from skimmed to semi skimmed as it is meant to be better as well.

Pre treatment i don't drink and reduce my caffeine. Green tea does have caffeine in..i drink the fruit herbal teas..they r very nice. but a little bit won't hurt. when i actually start the cycle i try to avoid caffeine all together..except in chocolate..but thats only cos i love it. Once i start stims my clinic advises me to drink 2 litres of water and 1 litre of milk a day and lots of high protein food.

Well done on giving up smoking :)

Hope thats helped a little...all i would really say is don't do any drastic dieting which could affect ur hormone levels and upset ur natural cycles.

Am sure others will be along with better advice than me!!
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Thursday, April 12th 2012, 1:52pm

Hey Ladies

thanks for the replies xx

I really should stop reading now.. I just read that the atkins diet really helps develop healthy eggs....

was all set on doing that (before i read these replies) then i googled it again & found out there were studies done which proved the exact opposite! (In mice tho!)

Oh im so confused!!!!!!

Think I'm just going to stick to healthy eating like you say.. at least i am a non smoker now :thumbsup: (I always said I would only every give up if I was lucky enough to be able to try IVF.. & thanks to egg share i can!! (While we are on the subject I just saw this woman.. heavily pregnant.. 3 other kds in tow.. sparking up a fag walking down the street. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ;( makes me angry & very sad)

I have been pretty rubbish in the past with my water inteak but am making a real effort to drink 2l a day.. feel like im gonna drown!

Think i need to stop googling about this as im getting really obsessed with it..& it is taking over my whole life...(I am very much an all or nothing person but think i need to chill a little.

Just called a local centre that specialises in accupuncture in prep for IVF.. how early should I start doing this?

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Thursday, April 12th 2012, 8:24pm

Hey

I can't really add anything more than the others have said other than to say have you tried Redbush (Rooibos) tea? It's caffeine free and frankly (in my humble opinion) tastes a million times better than green tea or herbal teas which I think are :yuk:

I changed to it a good couple of years ago and actually prefer it to normal tea now as it's not as strong and a bit fresher tasting.

:goodluck: to you.

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Friday, April 13th 2012, 8:53am

Morning!

Thanks so much for this info - my aunt drinks redbush & although quite a distinctive flavour I kind of like the taste..

Will get me some of this at lunch time - thank you ;)

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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 1:49am

Hi Dangermouse

I notice you are going to CRM London? There are bout 5 of us on the thread below all going there at the moment (all egg donors in the sharing programme) if you would like to join us and discuss:

CRM LONDON - EGG SHARING CHAT


Also I recently managed to find a list of good foods etc that help with egg quality etc before and during tx:

Before & During STIMMS: (these increase egg quality)
Drink LOTS of water
Baby aspirin (low dose aspirin)
folic acid
L-Arginine (health food supplement) - this one is REALLY good from what I have read

After ET: (these increase chances of implantation)
Grape Juice
Turkey
eggs
Pineapple - especially the core
Walnuts
Green leafy vegetables - (Spinach, mustard greens, and cauliflower)

Avoid the wrong foods: Caffeine, Alcohol, Fish, Smoking (even passive smoking),Sugar

I know some of them seem random, but they are all healthy foods so they can;'t do any harm. Pineapple seems to be the best one!



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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 8:12am

You should not take baby aspirin, unless prescribed by your doctor. It does not help egg quality and it's a powerful drugs with side effects. Also it affects negatively ovulation, it can stop it.
I was told by my clinic to drink 2 liters of cows' milk during stimmming, as milk contain lots of proteins and a chemical (I can't remember the name) that helps eggs.

The main thing to do it's to have a healthy diet rich in low fat proteins and to take a pregnancy supplement. Avoid/reduce stimulants like caffeine, and don't drink alcohol (that goes for DH as well).

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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 4:21pm

You should not take baby aspirin, unless prescribed by your doctor. It does not help egg quality and it's a powerful drugs with side effects. Also it affects negatively ovulation, it can stop it.
I was told by my clinic to drink 2 liters of cows' milk during stimmming, as milk contain lots of proteins and a chemical (I can't remember the name) that helps eggs.

The main thing to do it's to have a healthy diet rich in low fat proteins and to take a pregnancy supplement. Avoid/reduce stimulants like caffeine, and don't drink alcohol (that goes for DH as well).
Ok, that is something I wasn't aware of...but everything else on my list should be fine. The majority are fruits and veg etc so can't do any harm to try them. I know I will be!
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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 5:04pm

Just remember that aspirin, including baby aspirin is a drug with side effects and not a supplement. It makes your blood more fluid so you bleed more easily. If you take it before e/c you might cause yourself to bleed during the procedure and afterwards. It can also make you bleed during stimming, which you don't want. It can cause ulcers in your stomach and some people are allergic to it. Its effects can last up to a week, even if you stop taking it you may still bleed. It can be worse if the clinic doesn't know you are or have been taking it. Some people do use it but they have been prescribed it, so the clinic knows about it. And that is perfectly fine.
I know people read around and google to find some more info, but be careful as what is right for some it may not be right for you or you may have a reaction to a specific supplement.
I would stick to a healthy diet and vitamins. Remember that even supplements and vitamins can harm people. For example as you said l-arginine is good for you but do you know the dose that you should take and how often? Do you know that it is an amino acid, quite common in animal products like milk and meat? You might just be ok by eating a protein rich diet.
Also some of these supplements take 3 to 6 months to have an impact on egg quality so if you are starting stimming now they may not be worth it.
What i am trying to say is that there is nothing wrong with getting info, but take it with a pinch of salt and try to do what is best for you and your situation.
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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 5:22pm

shall I just get my post removed then? Obviously everything I said was wrong!
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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 7:50pm

No. There is no need. People read around and get info, there's nothing wrong in that.
As I said just be careful what you take without medical supervision and use your common sense. If you have been prescribed aspirin then you need to take it, if not then don't take it.
God luck with your treatment.

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Sunday, April 15th 2012, 8:31pm

PS: also is good to know what other people are prescribed. If somebody's cycle doesn't work and they've been reading about others being prescribed aspirin they can ask their consultant about that, it gives people ideas. It's always good to share info, using common sense.
Tale care.

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