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Monday, April 25th 2011, 6:53am

What do we do now?

Well I know things can change but my test date was today and I got a bfn, I am so upset but need to start finding answers.

We are in Essex and I am thinking after 2 icsi cycles and 3 good grade blastos all resulting in bfn perhaps there is an implantation issue?

I asked Bourn about this last time and they said oh it is way to early to worry about immunology issues after our first go, which i understand. This time I can't accept it! We had two blastos put back, and two frozen so our success rate out of 10 fertilised eggs was good. Why didn't they stick???

I am a vegetarian I eat healthy and I am fit I take pregnacare vita should i be on anything else?

Hubby gas low count and motility, he is slightly over weight, being taking selenium and man vits when he remembers, hoping this will show he needs to remember all the time.

I had such a good feeling about this time and feel such a failure I am so fed up! I can't imagine my life with no children.

I am now thinking immunology tests, where is the cheapest place to get level 2 done and how do I know if I had level 1 done?

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Monday, April 25th 2011, 7:35am

I answered you questions in your other thread but just wanted to add that you can ask your Dr for a copy of all your recent tests. In fact, if you go private for testing, if you have a copy of what has already been done, it will save you a lot of money.





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Monday, April 25th 2011, 7:51am

Hi pheobe,
did you go with Bourn Colchester? They don't do immune tests. They are right in saying that you have only had 2 goes and maybe it is just bad luck.
If you are not happy you can have the immunology tests done, but they are expensive, about £800 with the ARGC. The other tests you had won't tell you anything about immune issues. You could ask for a copy of your notes as I found that sometimes they don't say the same of what is written in the notes. For example we were told that my dh sperm was fine, but from the notes it wasn't.
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Monday, April 25th 2011, 7:58am

I found that sometimes they don't say the same of what is written in the notes.



YES!! I totally agree with this. One PRIME example of this is thyroid issues. I had my thyroid tested by my regular dr and it came back as "normal" but then Mr Shehata looked at my results and said, yes, they were "normal" but for FERTILITY they were too high!! So he put me on thyroxine. It really does pay to speak to a specialist about any test results you DO have.





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Monday, April 25th 2011, 9:56am

Thanks ladies.

Looks like I have some research to do. For starters I don't even know where or who ARGC 8|

I will keep you updated with my journey....

Maria yes I am at Bourn colchester, i fear they won't support me. So if i get these tests done will they work with any new programme drugs needed do you know, notice you are local ?


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Monday, April 25th 2011, 11:43am

Yes I live in Ipswich. I used Bourn Colchester for my last cycle. They did not seem to support the immune route but they did prescribe steroids and clexane. Also you can't get the immune drugs on the NHS cos they have not been licensed to use for reproductive problems. I don't really know if they would let you use other drugs other than steroids and clexane, you'll have to ask your consultant.

The ARGC is a clinic in London. The NHS does not fund these test and the ARGC is private.

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Tuesday, April 26th 2011, 10:12am

Hi phoebe, hope you're ok hun. You most probably already are but have a good read around everything on this section and also on google (have a look at the dr beers website aswell for indicators for having immune testing). I had been researching immunology for months and months before going for the testing. But if this is the route which you feel is right for you then don't delay having the tests. Read up as much as you can on tests, treatments, immune clinics in London (prob best for you with where you live). Good luck xx

Hi Daisy - do you mind me asking what your TSH level was? Mine is also 'normal' but it is over 2 which is apparantely too high for fertility. Is thyroxine the only way to bring it down? xx

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Tuesday, April 26th 2011, 10:23am

Hi hon

Firstly sorry for your bfn.

If you feel tests will help before those blastos go back then you should definatley go for it.
All I know is that I have had 4 rounds of TX all in all from age 27 to 39 & I have a thyroid issue.
The differences I made in my 4th succesful one were, Royal Jelly, Baby Asprin, ICSI & I had a lot of scaring removed from my uterus & fallopian tubes 5 months before & my thyroid was brought down to borderline. (My cons said an under active is worse for fertility than an over active thyroid. Mine is over) I dont know if any of those helped or if they were all responsible in some way.

I wish you loads of luck in your journey.
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